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	<title>Comments on: How Not to Get Invited on the Next Group Ride</title>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fatty Goes to France, Part III: Mont-du-Chat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fatty Goes to France, Part III: Mont-du-Chat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] someone else was suggesting we pull &#8220;The Elden Move&#8221; . . . to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hy,I like your space :)&quot; Have a nice day na ja! Miss U &quot;ByeA.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hy,I like your space :)&quot; Have a nice day na ja! Miss U &quot;ByeA.<br />
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		<title>By: nwar</title>
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		<dc:creator>nwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please i wanna be one of the windows live mail family.
 
thank you
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please i wanna be one of the windows live mail family.<br />
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thank you<br />
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		<title>By: nwar</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2005/09/26/how-not-to-get-invited-on-the-next-group-ride-2/comment-page-1/#comment-499061</link>
		<dc:creator>nwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please i wanna be one of the windows live mail family.
 
thank you
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please i wanna be one of the windows live mail family.<br />
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thank you<br />
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2005/09/26/how-not-to-get-invited-on-the-next-group-ride-2/comment-page-1/#comment-499062</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bricinTheDog - i can&#039;t believe i missed that one. thanks for adding that to the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bricinTheDog &#8211; i can&#8217;t believe i missed that one. thanks for adding that to the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, what appears to be missing from the list is the &quot;jackrabbit&quot;. Every time when it&#039;s your turn to pull you boost the speed a little. Not too much, just enough to make everyone work harder and the guy who just rotatated off gets cracked off the whip. The jackrabbit will of course act sheepish when called on this or comment &quot;wow, I didn&#039;t know how strong I was today&quot; or some other b.s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, what appears to be missing from the list is the &quot;jackrabbit&quot;. Every time when it&#8217;s your turn to pull you boost the speed a little. Not too much, just enough to make everyone work harder and the guy who just rotatated off gets cracked off the whip. The jackrabbit will of course act sheepish when called on this or comment &quot;wow, I didn&#8217;t know how strong I was today&quot; or some other b.s.</p>
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		<title>By: agreenmouther</title>
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		<dc:creator>agreenmouther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my take on the &quot;Elden&quot; having experienced it from both sides and in multiple sports. 1.  I hate receiving an Elden.  I wanted to hit my Dad when he started running in circles around me in a half-marathon.  But that would have required too much energy expenditure.2.  I love performing the Elden.  Apparently I am a hypocrite. 3.  I think the Elden works ONLY if you don&#039;t talk, chat, etc. while performing it.  Just suffer alongside the slowpoke so that he knows he is not alone unless he requests distractionary tactics.4.  If your said slowpoke resents you, ride further down and just ride back up again.  This way you check for mechanicals and other posssible areas of need without ruining anyone&#039;s ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my take on the &quot;Elden&quot; having experienced it from both sides and in multiple sports. 1.  I hate receiving an Elden.  I wanted to hit my Dad when he started running in circles around me in a half-marathon.  But that would have required too much energy expenditure.2.  I love performing the Elden.  Apparently I am a hypocrite. 3.  I think the Elden works ONLY if you don&#8217;t talk, chat, etc. while performing it.  Just suffer alongside the slowpoke so that he knows he is not alone unless he requests distractionary tactics.4.  If your said slowpoke resents you, ride further down and just ride back up again.  This way you check for mechanicals and other posssible areas of need without ruining anyone&#8217;s ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the bowl well, now.  I have been flushed before.  I love the bowl...in fact I think I need to go to Gooseberry again soon.  Hey Fatty, juwanna put together one of your group ride things, ala Zoo ride for Gooseberry around Veteran&#039;s Day? You fly into Vegas and I will do the rest...Dug? Anyone else? Bad form, indeed, not following Dug&#039;s set of rules...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the bowl well, now.  I have been flushed before.  I love the bowl&#8230;in fact I think I need to go to Gooseberry again soon.  Hey Fatty, juwanna put together one of your group ride things, ala Zoo ride for Gooseberry around Veteran&#8217;s Day? You fly into Vegas and I will do the rest&#8230;Dug? Anyone else? Bad form, indeed, not following Dug&#8217;s set of rules&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just want to make it clear that these rules are specific to while the ride is in progress. some of them may apply generally, but many do not. ie, - it&#039;s ok to talk about bike gear when off the bike - it&#039;s ok to boast about trivial bike wins when off the bike - it&#039;s ok to talk about fight club when not at fight club</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just want to make it clear that these rules are specific to while the ride is in progress. some of them may apply generally, but many do not. ie, &#8211; it&#8217;s ok to talk about bike gear when off the bike &#8211; it&#8217;s ok to boast about trivial bike wins when off the bike &#8211; it&#8217;s ok to talk about fight club when not at fight club</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the toilet bowl is just off the main trail. you finish the really excellent part of hidden canyon, go up a steep rock slope, drop a ledge, go through a very narrow slot, up a rock, hard right, either through a place so narrow you can&#039;t pedal, or left and over the adjoining rock. after this, the excellent part of hidden canyon is over, and it&#039;s a few hundred yards to the dirt road. the toilet bowl is to the left of and over the rock hump to the left of this very narrow no pedal zone (a tricky re-try move in itself).re the elden. if you&#039;re riding with someone who can&#039;t keep up with you, then you are sheparding. so you have three options: shepard them all the way to the top by riding at their pace, or ride fast to the top and wait for them, or don&#039;t ride with people slower than you. to ride to the top and then ride back down and up with them is intrinsically bad form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the toilet bowl is just off the main trail. you finish the really excellent part of hidden canyon, go up a steep rock slope, drop a ledge, go through a very narrow slot, up a rock, hard right, either through a place so narrow you can&#8217;t pedal, or left and over the adjoining rock. after this, the excellent part of hidden canyon is over, and it&#8217;s a few hundred yards to the dirt road. the toilet bowl is to the left of and over the rock hump to the left of this very narrow no pedal zone (a tricky re-try move in itself).re the elden. if you&#8217;re riding with someone who can&#8217;t keep up with you, then you are sheparding. so you have three options: shepard them all the way to the top by riding at their pace, or ride fast to the top and wait for them, or don&#8217;t ride with people slower than you. to ride to the top and then ride back down and up with them is intrinsically bad form.</p>
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