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	<title>Comments on: Tyler</title>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501207</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, in searching around for Ty Hamilton infor, I found something that will make us bike geeks drool: http://www.tylerhamiltonfoundation.org/thfbikes72.htmlI don&#039;t think we have too much to worry about when it comes to Tyler coming back in style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, in searching around for Ty Hamilton infor, I found something that will make us bike geeks drool: <a href="http://www.tylerhamiltonfoundation.org/thfbikes72.htmlI" rel="nofollow">http://www.tylerhamiltonfoundation.org/thfbikes72.htmlI</a> don&#8217;t think we have too much to worry about when it comes to Tyler coming back in style.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Mike, I&#039;ll concede that. Just the fact that he&#039;s working so hard to prove his innocence isn&#039;t evidence enough. But, there are some factors that I think should be taken into consideration (that probably won&#039;t be). Specifically, there&#039;s a false positive rate for every medical test. I don&#039;t remember all the details from stats class, but I believe that one AIDS test has an 80-percent chance of calling you positive if you&#039;re not (and only a 20-percent chance of calling you negative if you&#039;re not). But these doping tests don&#039;t have established false positive rates yet. I think we&#039;re up to three EPO-accused Belgian triathletes who&#039;ve been established as innocent since receiving positive tests. Bloodwork&#039;s not an exact science either, as I understand it.Oh, hey, Rocky, give the guy a break. Stage 16 was two weeks after he broke his collarbone. People heal, man. The bone was probably still fresh, but that doesn&#039;t mean he can&#039;t move his arm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Mike, I&#8217;ll concede that. Just the fact that he&#8217;s working so hard to prove his innocence isn&#8217;t evidence enough. But, there are some factors that I think should be taken into consideration (that probably won&#8217;t be). Specifically, there&#8217;s a false positive rate for every medical test. I don&#8217;t remember all the details from stats class, but I believe that one AIDS test has an 80-percent chance of calling you positive if you&#8217;re not (and only a 20-percent chance of calling you negative if you&#8217;re not). But these doping tests don&#8217;t have established false positive rates yet. I think we&#8217;re up to three EPO-accused Belgian triathletes who&#8217;ve been established as innocent since receiving positive tests. Bloodwork&#8217;s not an exact science either, as I understand it.Oh, hey, Rocky, give the guy a break. Stage 16 was two weeks after he broke his collarbone. People heal, man. The bone was probably still fresh, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he can&#8217;t move his arm.</p>
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		<title>By: Loes</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501209</link>
		<dc:creator>Loes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought exactely the same thing, &quot;if he&#039;s says he&#039;s innocent, he is!&quot; even though the evidence prooves something else.Also, I&#039;m way too naïve to even doubt some cyclists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought exactely the same thing, &quot;if he&#8217;s says he&#8217;s innocent, he is!&quot; even though the evidence prooves something else.Also, I&#8217;m way too naïve to even doubt some cyclists.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501210</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler is definitely an outstanding athlete, someone that through his career has shown tremendous grit and a fantastic courage. Wether he is considered guilty or not , I &#039;m certain that the memories of his cycling will not disappear, at least I will always remember his gesture of holding the leaders of the TDF (Ulrich included) when Lance Armstrong and Iban Mayo fell due to a spectator. To be a top professional ciclyst requires a level of devotion and will that are not common and those values nobody can take away from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler is definitely an outstanding athlete, someone that through his career has shown tremendous grit and a fantastic courage. Wether he is considered guilty or not , I &#8216;m certain that the memories of his cycling will not disappear, at least I will always remember his gesture of holding the leaders of the TDF (Ulrich included) when Lance Armstrong and Iban Mayo fell due to a spectator. To be a top professional ciclyst requires a level of devotion and will that are not common and those values nobody can take away from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501211</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No grimmace, no wince, no ONE ARM thrust above his head in victory. Spin doctors have a way of spinning just to spin.   http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/details/articles/4649.0.html &quot;say it ain&#039;t so, joe.but it is. it&#039;s so.bummer.&quot;I AM just sayin&#039;.http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/details/articles/4649.0.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No grimmace, no wince, no ONE ARM thrust above his head in victory. Spin doctors have a way of spinning just to spin.   <a href="http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/details/articles/4649.0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/details/articles/4649.0.html</a> &quot;say it ain&#8217;t so, joe.but it is. it&#8217;s so.bummer.&quot;I AM just sayin&#8217;.http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/details/articles/4649.0.html</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501212</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty, you aren&#039;t my sorta-kinda hero.  You are my flat-out, no qualifications hero. Any man who can keep his faith in the purity and innocence of pro athletes, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, is a man of unshakeable belief and deep convictions.  You might be very, very wrong, but I utterly respect that level of committment and wish I had it.  It reminds me of serial monogamists working on their 6th or 7th marriage, convinced that this time it will work out - it is the absolute triumph of hope over experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatty, you aren&#8217;t my sorta-kinda hero.  You are my flat-out, no qualifications hero. Any man who can keep his faith in the purity and innocence of pro athletes, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, is a man of unshakeable belief and deep convictions.  You might be very, very wrong, but I utterly respect that level of committment and wish I had it.  It reminds me of serial monogamists working on their 6th or 7th marriage, convinced that this time it will work out &#8211; it is the absolute triumph of hope over experience.</p>
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		<title>By: BIg Mike In Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIg Mike In Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty - Careful, you only know Tyler as well as his minders and PR team want you to know him.  Tyler Hamilton is a great cyclist just like Michael Jackson is a great entertainer.  Everything else is a sideshow.  Some are marketed as freaks, others are marketed as pure and innocent, but the real truth is seldom seen.  Even the courts can&#039;t always get to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatty &#8211; Careful, you only know Tyler as well as his minders and PR team want you to know him.  Tyler Hamilton is a great cyclist just like Michael Jackson is a great entertainer.  Everything else is a sideshow.  Some are marketed as freaks, others are marketed as pure and innocent, but the real truth is seldom seen.  Even the courts can&#8217;t always get to the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/01/10/tyler/comment-page-1/#comment-501214</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kelly - you logged on just to read me? sheesh. that&#039;s incredibly nice of you to say. especially considering how slow msn spaces seems to be right now (anybody else noticing that?).mike - on its own, you&#039;re right. enthusiasm of defense doesn&#039;t mean much. i give it more weight in context though, because of who tyler is -- or at least how i perceive him.BiKnBrYn - i can&#039;t tell whether any of the other guys protesting their innocence are for real. i only have enough emotional energy for one pro cyclist drama at a time. everyone else is going to have to wait their turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kelly &#8211; you logged on just to read me? sheesh. that&#8217;s incredibly nice of you to say. especially considering how slow msn spaces seems to be right now (anybody else noticing that?).mike &#8211; on its own, you&#8217;re right. enthusiasm of defense doesn&#8217;t mean much. i give it more weight in context though, because of who tyler is &#8212; or at least how i perceive him.BiKnBrYn &#8211; i can&#8217;t tell whether any of the other guys protesting their innocence are for real. i only have enough emotional energy for one pro cyclist drama at a time. everyone else is going to have to wait their turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really have an opinion on Tyler, i didnt really know too much about him b4 but wat ive read since says that he seems to be a really nice guy, as for the doping, i say the opposite to big mike. If he actually was guilty, why would u spend the money and the time to try and prove something thats false. I think Tyler Hamilton is innocent, i think Heras is guilty and all the other phonak riders that proved positive, serves them right for riding for a team like phonak i guess. I think im in a bad mood cos i nearly got hit by 3 cars today, had a flat, was caught in heavy rain and rode down a section of motorway that cyclists weren&#039;t allowed bcos they&#039;d most probably get killed, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really have an opinion on Tyler, i didnt really know too much about him b4 but wat ive read since says that he seems to be a really nice guy, as for the doping, i say the opposite to big mike. If he actually was guilty, why would u spend the money and the time to try and prove something thats false. I think Tyler Hamilton is innocent, i think Heras is guilty and all the other phonak riders that proved positive, serves them right for riding for a team like phonak i guess. I think im in a bad mood cos i nearly got hit by 3 cars today, had a flat, was caught in heavy rain and rode down a section of motorway that cyclists weren&#8217;t allowed bcos they&#8217;d most probably get killed, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really have an opinion on Tyler, i didnt really know too much about him b4 but wat ive read since says that he seems to be a really nice guy, as for the doping, i say the opposite to big mike. If he actually was guilty, why would u spend the money and the time to try and prove something thats false. I think Tyler Hamilton is innocent, i think Heras is guilty and all the other phonak riders that proved positive, serves them right for riding for a team like phonak i guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really have an opinion on Tyler, i didnt really know too much about him b4 but wat ive read since says that he seems to be a really nice guy, as for the doping, i say the opposite to big mike. If he actually was guilty, why would u spend the money and the time to try and prove something thats false. I think Tyler Hamilton is innocent, i think Heras is guilty and all the other phonak riders that proved positive, serves them right for riding for a team like phonak i guess.</p>
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