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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504378</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as folks are sharing their 9/11 stories. Not bike related, but Fatty thought I should share here. I was in an offsite with an exec and other senior &quot;leaders&quot; of my company. We are west coast, and it started early, so the planes had hit, and one tower had fallen. We were all sitting around some conference room with the TV on. The second tower falls. A little while later, the most senior exec gets up to talk to all of us who have, understandably, not started the meeting yet. He asks what we think we should do, vis a vis the ALL DAY offsite. He&#039;s getting the &quot;not really into this&quot; vibe, pretty heavy from everyone. Then he lets it go. I shit you not, I heard this, in regard as to whether we  should have leadership building exercises and draw consensus-driven diagrams meant to imply strategy, while the NYC was still in chaos. Not two hours into the post 9/11 world, before I heard that my brother who works in downtown NY was safe, I heard this argument for the first time:&quot;If we don&#039;t have this meeting, the terrorists will have won.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as folks are sharing their 9/11 stories. Not bike related, but Fatty thought I should share here. I was in an offsite with an exec and other senior &quot;leaders&quot; of my company. We are west coast, and it started early, so the planes had hit, and one tower had fallen. We were all sitting around some conference room with the TV on. The second tower falls. A little while later, the most senior exec gets up to talk to all of us who have, understandably, not started the meeting yet. He asks what we think we should do, vis a vis the ALL DAY offsite. He&#8217;s getting the &quot;not really into this&quot; vibe, pretty heavy from everyone. Then he lets it go. I shit you not, I heard this, in regard as to whether we  should have leadership building exercises and draw consensus-driven diagrams meant to imply strategy, while the NYC was still in chaos. Not two hours into the post 9/11 world, before I heard that my brother who works in downtown NY was safe, I heard this argument for the first time:&quot;If we don&#8217;t have this meeting, the terrorists will have won.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504379</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to buy a license from USAC (either Norba or Uscf) if you want to enter &#039;races&quot;...I mean...technically...the fun rides are often ridden like races, but, they really aren&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to buy a license from USAC (either Norba or Uscf) if you want to enter &#8216;races&quot;&#8230;I mean&#8230;technically&#8230;the fun rides are often ridden like races, but, they really aren&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: BIg Mike In Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504380</link>
		<dc:creator>BIg Mike In Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic, I read this late Friday and then managed to stay off my bike for the entire weekend using varying combinations from your excuse mill.  Now I feel depressed at the realisation that my goal is 3 days closer, but at the same time, at least 3 days further away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, I read this late Friday and then managed to stay off my bike for the entire weekend using varying combinations from your excuse mill.  Now I feel depressed at the realisation that my goal is 3 days closer, but at the same time, at least 3 days further away.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504381</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how was the ride vs Lotoja? I think I spotted you coming down the Provo river trail around noon. (All I saw was a Reese&#039;s jersey and a yellow bike)  I didn&#039;t want to upset the momentum of the epic ride so I simply shouted &#039;Fatty!&#039; as I was climbing up the canyon.
 
 
dski
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how was the ride vs Lotoja? I think I spotted you coming down the Provo river trail around noon. (All I saw was a Reese&#8217;s jersey and a yellow bike)  I didn&#8217;t want to upset the momentum of the epic ride so I simply shouted &#8216;Fatty!&#8217; as I was climbing up the canyon.<br />
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dski<br />
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504382</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Botched - suffuring alone off-the-back is the worst thing. Nothing sez loser or bad training than being one pedal stroke in front of the SAG wagon.
 
Boz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Botched &#8211; suffuring alone off-the-back is the worst thing. Nothing sez loser or bad training than being one pedal stroke in front of the SAG wagon.<br />
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Boz</p>
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		<title>By: BotchedExperiment</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504383</link>
		<dc:creator>BotchedExperiment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s one thing I learned this year, it&#039;s that I no longer enjoy the big monster ride just for the sake of the big monster ride. Oh sure, at first it&#039;s fun, but eventually you&#039;re just suffering. The other thing I&#039;ve learned is that if you&#039;re suffering with someone you know, it&#039;s more fun than suffering alone.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one thing I learned this year, it&#8217;s that I no longer enjoy the big monster ride just for the sake of the big monster ride. Oh sure, at first it&#8217;s fun, but eventually you&#8217;re just suffering. The other thing I&#8217;ve learned is that if you&#8217;re suffering with someone you know, it&#8217;s more fun than suffering alone.<br />
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504384</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About your statement that Lotoja &quot;is in actuality not a race at all&quot;: dead on. At least, for the majority of the 1,000 riders in it.
P.S. Does this mean we&#039;re not getting a review of the Ibis?
P.P.S. If you&#039;re interested in doing it as part of a relay team next year just let me know. I think I might know a way or two to reduce the &#039;I&#039; in your ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About your statement that Lotoja &quot;is in actuality not a race at all&quot;: dead on. At least, for the majority of the 1,000 riders in it.<br />
P.S. Does this mean we&#8217;re not getting a review of the Ibis?<br />
P.P.S. If you&#8217;re interested in doing it as part of a relay team next year just let me know. I think I might know a way or two to reduce the &#8216;I&#8217; in your ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: UltraRob</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504385</link>
		<dc:creator>UltraRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had similiar reasons for not doing the Durango MTB 100 this year except for the 5th wheel one.  After doing atempting RAAM, my bank account is not looking so good.  I just couldn&#039;t justify the cost of doing it.  Then I figured out I didn&#039;t have time to train because I had ignored so many other things while training so many hours for RAAM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had similiar reasons for not doing the Durango MTB 100 this year except for the 5th wheel one.  After doing atempting RAAM, my bank account is not looking so good.  I just couldn&#8217;t justify the cost of doing it.  Then I figured out I didn&#8217;t have time to train because I had ignored so many other things while training so many hours for RAAM.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2006/09/08/return-on-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-504386</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B21: Bingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B21: Bingo.</p>
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		<title>By: barry1021</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry1021</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but this finely written analysis was just a cover for the only reason you are not going--
I&#039;d be an awkward third wheel (or, technically, a fifth wheel) on a romantic second honeymoon / double date (which just happens to have a big ride stuck in the middle)
 
And man, that is a VERY GOOD reason!!! Yuck!!!
 
B21</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, but this finely written analysis was just a cover for the only reason you are not going&#8211;<br />
I&#8217;d be an awkward third wheel (or, technically, a fifth wheel) on a romantic second honeymoon / double date (which just happens to have a big ride stuck in the middle)<br />
 <br />
And man, that is a VERY GOOD reason!!! Yuck!!!<br />
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B21</p>
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