Comments on: Fall Moab ‘06, Part IV: Redemption on Slickrock

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By: campioni

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By: MTB W

MTB W — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:28:29 +0000

Back to cycling. Well, this may be more of a separate and new topic for our esteemed FC, but this past summer, I didn’t notice that many racers using 29ers. I don’t know if this due to 29ers relative newness, lack of info about them (for people like me!) or otherwise. While I don’t expect people to be using 29ers for a hill climb, they may be better for the dirt singletrack with lots of rocky descents, but not good for those trails with tight turns, technical uphills with little room for mobility (where you don’t have the time for that extra 1/2 stroke). Anyone try racing 29ers? Anway, I may have to reconsider my prejudice against 29ers and retry them next spring.

At Moab last weekend, my friend had 3 endos on technical downhills, mostly from gaps and rocks he couldn’t get up and over – thinking back, the 29ers probably would have saved him a few bruises!

By: sans auto

sans auto — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:51:12 +0000

Botched,
I’m going to note that you didn’t say that you read the book. Of course i recognize that we are all bombarded by stuff every day of our lives that messes with our DNA and potentially lead to cancer. Everyone is hit with this stuff and if people are living forever and not getting cancer it’s just luck. I also recognize that a cure for cancer would be a good thing for humanity.
I’m stepping a little out of my expertice here, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I’m not saying that a vegan diet will eliminate cancer. It won’t. Notice that I resumed eating meat after the trial, it’s because I don’t believe this guy completely. He does make some very good points and has some solid evidence to back it up (although cancer research is not my expertice). He called Casein (the amino acid) the most significant chemical carcinogen ever discovered. In his first big study he gave a bunch of rats aflotoxin and then half the rats got a high protein (casein) diet and the others low. All of the rats on the high protein diet died of cancer. All of the other rats outlived “average” and none every developed cancer.
I’m not saying, “jump on the bandwagon”. I”m saying look at it (I’ll even ride the book up to you if you give me your address) and make an educated decision… and tell me what you think because I don’t know cancer. Exercise, yes; nutrition, yes; cancer, no.

By: BotchedExperiment

BotchedExperiment — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:48:44 +0000

Sans, I never believe anyone who says People X or Animal Y don’t get cancer. If it can be demonstrated that those people or animals aren’t getting cancer, it is always because they are dying young of something other than cancer.
From a molecular biology perspective, getting cancer is inevitable. If an ant or a shark or a human lives long enough, they will get cancer.

By: Rocky

Rocky — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:44:47 +0000

I should have read the last two comments before I posted. I have a geared 29er and a geared long travel pig of my own. I ride them both nearly equally. The 29er is inferior to the 26er in tight technical terrain (which we have much of in Western Colorado), as you surmised. Once rolling, it climbs better, but getting it to the point that it climbs better forces the rider through a bit of turbo lag, if that makes any sense. In other words, it takes about an additional 1/2 pedal stroke to gather momentum, and then it really hooks up with the trail.

The 29er is an advantage in the up and over the rocks category, too. That’s why I sucked big time at Fall Moab this year–I was not on a 29er and most others were. Wait. Dug did the big triple on a 26er. I guess that means that I just suck, and have no excuse. Back to the 29er. Again, once you are through the lag (minimized by the gears), the 29er really moves over stuff, and crevices and rock sticking opportunities are minimized. As a side note, if you stick a tire on the 29er, count on a launch of some sort. If it doesn’t roll over the obstacle the first time and you stick, you are normally really stuck.

By: Rocky

Rocky — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:33:19 +0000

Fatty–congrats on the redemption! Nice work on any of the sick moves at Slickrock. Some of those are heady moves, and on the singlespeed, you get double kudos for good work.

Ew on the buttocks/leg shot–ew on the hairiness. It’s good to have some tangible evidence of putting yourself out there, however. As long as the evidence does not come in the form of a cast or an external fixator of some variety.

By: dug

dug — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:26:20 +0000

mtb w, tom was riding my big travel cannondale gemini (the pig), and i was riding my 29er single. but for that big triple stair step move we spent an hour at, i grabbed the pig from tom (who fell rather gloriously there on the pig) and rode right up that thing, twice.

it’s a mixed bag. i don’t think the wheel size made a difference there, but rather the low gears and the way the long travel just sticks to the rock. the long travel and low gears make big gap wheelie drops and climbs easier too.

i’ve only ever ridden the big wheels on a singlespeed bike, so it’s hard for me to say whether the big wheels make it harder to do tight technical stuff. but my impression is yes, the tight and technical is better on 26ers, and faster and bigger is better on 29ers. the 29ers roll really well over washboard rock, they don’t get stuck in dips and v-shaped holes, the roll really well generally.

not sure we’ll ever know. until we all get bored and go back to gears, and maybe then we’ll get gears with 29 inch wheels.

By: MTB W

MTB W — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:15:59 +0000

I’ve got to ask – how did you guys with the 29ers get those big tires up and over those rocks? It seems like 29ers are great for downhill and crossing sand but harder to go uphill on technical stuff (yeah, I’ve only rode a 29er once, and that was just in a parking lot). Did anyone switch btwn bikes and see if there was a difference? Just wondering.

By: sans auto

sans auto — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:13:19 +0000

I wouldn’t mind Utah getting warmer in the winter, it’s the summer that worries me. My little brick house may cook its occupants if it gets any hotter outside during the summer.
You made mention of my vegan diet. As a person researching a cure for cancer, surely you have read Dr. Campbell’s book, “The China Study” which indicates diet as a cause of many of today’s cancers, especially meat in the diet. This book challenged me to be vegan, and I did (pretty much), for one month. I have now returned to a less than vegan diet and consume an occasional slab of flesh, especially fish.
I understand your dislike for cold, wet, dark winter rides in Utah, but most days here (even in the winter) are not wet which makes it possible to stay warm. I also like to hear that you take the bus… Does that make you more environmentally friendly than you let on to, or just cheap?