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	<title>Comments on: Close But No Cigar, Part VI: Dug&#8217;s Tragedy</title>
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		<title>By: tigermouth</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2007/08/19/close-but-no-cigar-part-vi-dugs-tragedy/comment-page-1/#comment-32250</link>
		<dc:creator>tigermouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32/20 = 1.6.

The golden ratio [aka the golden mean] is approximately 1.6180339887 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32/20 = 1.6.</p>
<p>The golden ratio [aka the golden mean] is approximately 1.6180339887 (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: iDon, uNot</title>
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		<dc:creator>iDon, uNot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Close But No Cigar, Part VI: Dugâ€™s Tragedy [...]
I wrote a few thoughts on the passing subject at my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Close But No Cigar, Part VI: Dugâ€™s Tragedy [...]<br />
I wrote a few thoughts on the passing subject at my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: lmouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s that old saw about &quot;Grant me the (something) to change the things I can, the (something, something) to accept the things I can&#039;t change, and the wisdom to know the difference&quot;?  You simply displayed the kind of wisdom one would expect from a reasonable, mature man.  Leave it at that.  No regrets.

As for the &quot;on your left/right&quot; issue...Being as old and slow as I am, I am often passed on the road by nice young people who say things like &quot;Good morning!&quot; and &quot;Nice Bianchi!  Love the color!&quot; (my bike really is a sweetie) which is much more pleasant to hear than &quot;On yer left!&quot;  The drivers are rude enough; we should be mellow with each other.  Just my opinion, of course.  The manuals all tell us to use the &quot;On yer whatever&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s that old saw about &#8220;Grant me the (something) to change the things I can, the (something, something) to accept the things I can&#8217;t change, and the wisdom to know the difference&#8221;?  You simply displayed the kind of wisdom one would expect from a reasonable, mature man.  Leave it at that.  No regrets.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;on your left/right&#8221; issue&#8230;Being as old and slow as I am, I am often passed on the road by nice young people who say things like &#8220;Good morning!&#8221; and &#8220;Nice Bianchi!  Love the color!&#8221; (my bike really is a sweetie) which is much more pleasant to hear than &#8220;On yer left!&#8221;  The drivers are rude enough; we should be mellow with each other.  Just my opinion, of course.  The manuals all tell us to use the &#8220;On yer whatever&#8221; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Yukirin Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yukirin Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Liggett ? - &quot;suitcase of courage&quot; - superb! 
I can hear Phil and Paul&#039;s commentary now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Liggett ? &#8211; &#8220;suitcase of courage&#8221; &#8211; superb!<br />
I can hear Phil and Paul&#8217;s commentary now.</p>
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		<title>By: KeepYerBag</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2007/08/19/close-but-no-cigar-part-vi-dugs-tragedy/comment-page-1/#comment-31921</link>
		<dc:creator>KeepYerBag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, some dude named &#039;FCbetwinner&#039; is selling a nice Waltworks on eBay.  $3.00 minimum, and BuyItNow of $45.00!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, some dude named &#8216;FCbetwinner&#8217; is selling a nice Waltworks on eBay.  $3.00 minimum, and BuyItNow of $45.00!</p>
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		<title>By: formertdffan</title>
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		<dc:creator>formertdffan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops can&#039;t spell
separation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops can&#8217;t spell<br />
separation</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mike In Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mike In Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Oz we tend to call on your left/right in group rides to warn riders behind of upcoming obstacles.  Passing occurs mostly in silence.

Unless it&#039;s the last couple of laps of a race on the velodrome, then you&#039;ll hear a lot of &quot;stay down&quot; from the fast guys coming around the outside.  It&#039;s good advice... I&#039;ve been on the messy end of a transaction where a slow rider pulled up in front of a 4 man train with a speed difference of about 20 mph.  I&#039;m pretty sure there was only 3 chainwheel bolts and a back hub useable from the wreckage of the 3 bikes that went down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Oz we tend to call on your left/right in group rides to warn riders behind of upcoming obstacles.  Passing occurs mostly in silence.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s the last couple of laps of a race on the velodrome, then you&#8217;ll hear a lot of &#8220;stay down&#8221; from the fast guys coming around the outside.  It&#8217;s good advice&#8230; I&#8217;ve been on the messy end of a transaction where a slow rider pulled up in front of a 4 man train with a speed difference of about 20 mph.  I&#8217;m pretty sure there was only 3 chainwheel bolts and a back hub useable from the wreckage of the 3 bikes that went down.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of saying, &quot;on yer right,&quot; you should say, &quot;I am passing you on the right side, so kindly hold your line.&quot; You&#039;ll complete more races that way, and you won&#039;t have to ride a bike owned by someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of saying, &#8220;on yer right,&#8221; you should say, &#8220;I am passing you on the right side, so kindly hold your line.&#8221; You&#8217;ll complete more races that way, and you won&#8217;t have to ride a bike owned by someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: MTB W</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTB W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dug, bummer about Leadville 100 and now the e100 and any long rides for a while.  But now you can do a lot of shorter rides!  Besides, now you have a good story to go with the shoulder injury and a burning desire to train for next year&#039;s leadville.

Gotta say, love the basket, streamers and bell!  Now that&#039;s a true sense of fashion.  Get any comments about them in Leadville?

On a side note, I would like to hear Kenny&#039;s story (but please everyone, no more helmet jokes or put downs - I would think Kenny has heard enough of them) or stories from other friends of fatty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dug, bummer about Leadville 100 and now the e100 and any long rides for a while.  But now you can do a lot of shorter rides!  Besides, now you have a good story to go with the shoulder injury and a burning desire to train for next year&#8217;s leadville.</p>
<p>Gotta say, love the basket, streamers and bell!  Now that&#8217;s a true sense of fashion.  Get any comments about them in Leadville?</p>
<p>On a side note, I would like to hear Kenny&#8217;s story (but please everyone, no more helmet jokes or put downs &#8211; I would think Kenny has heard enough of them) or stories from other friends of fatty.</p>
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		<title>By: Clydesteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clydesteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, dug,

You showed up, gave it a try, and never even pulled out the I&#039;m a fat middle-aged guy card.  You had real ones.

It IS supposed to be fun, and even if you decided to be tougher and go farther with your injury (oh, wait, it&#039;s not smart to do that if you do not want to make things worse) what kind of sucky thing is it to keep stopping try to put a bent bolt in a stripped hole. It was not fun.  Time to call it a day.  No honor lost.

Did you try just sticking your Park multitool in the hole and holding it there with bailin&#039; wire &amp; duct tape? 

sp



Honor Susan &amp; support me in the LIVESTRONG Challenge:
http://portland07.livestrong.org/spete?faf=1&amp;e=1204584807</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, dug,</p>
<p>You showed up, gave it a try, and never even pulled out the I&#8217;m a fat middle-aged guy card.  You had real ones.</p>
<p>It IS supposed to be fun, and even if you decided to be tougher and go farther with your injury (oh, wait, it&#8217;s not smart to do that if you do not want to make things worse) what kind of sucky thing is it to keep stopping try to put a bent bolt in a stripped hole. It was not fun.  Time to call it a day.  No honor lost.</p>
<p>Did you try just sticking your Park multitool in the hole and holding it there with bailin&#8217; wire &amp; duct tape? </p>
<p>sp</p>
<p>Honor Susan &amp; support me in the LIVESTRONG Challenge:<br />
<a href="http://portland07.livestrong.org/spete?faf=1&amp;e=1204584807" rel="nofollow">http://portland07.livestrong.org/spete?faf=1&amp;e=1204584807</a></p>
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