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	<title>Comments on: How to Ride Other People&#8217;s Bikes</title>
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		<title>By: Will Handsfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Handsfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to check out a custom built Spot Brand belt driven 3 speed during the DNC for the Freewheelin&#039; project: http://ayearofbikecommuting.blogspot.com/2008/08/bike-commuting-gone-wild-freewheelin.html

The ride was solid, and I loved the characteristics.  It was a bit more noisy in some gears, but I&#039;m blaming that on the SRAM internal 3 speed system.  I think I will get a belt driven 7 or 8 speed if I go for a 29er.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to check out a custom built Spot Brand belt driven 3 speed during the DNC for the Freewheelin&#8217; project: <a href="http://ayearofbikecommuting.blogspot.com/2008/08/bike-commuting-gone-wild-freewheelin.html" rel="nofollow">http://ayearofbikecommuting.blogspot.com/2008/08/bike-commuting-gone-wild-freewheelin.html</a></p>
<p>The ride was solid, and I loved the characteristics.  It was a bit more noisy in some gears, but I&#8217;m blaming that on the SRAM internal 3 speed system.  I think I will get a belt driven 7 or 8 speed if I go for a 29er.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, almost forgot - I&#039;m guessing the beefy chaintug(s) you need for the belt setup make the weight a complete wash, or even possibly very slightly heavier.

Doesn&#039;t reduce my enthusiasm one bit, though. If I want to go faster, I&#039;ll, like, train.

BTW, Kenny, what&#039;s the chainstay length (or range of lengths) on that bike? Does the tire fit ok with the wheel at the front of the dropout? Enquiring minds (who are trying to build a bike around this darn thing and are stumped by the chainring clearance problem) want to know.

-Walt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, almost forgot &#8211; I&#8217;m guessing the beefy chaintug(s) you need for the belt setup make the weight a complete wash, or even possibly very slightly heavier.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t reduce my enthusiasm one bit, though. If I want to go faster, I&#8217;ll, like, train.</p>
<p>BTW, Kenny, what&#8217;s the chainstay length (or range of lengths) on that bike? Does the tire fit ok with the wheel at the front of the dropout? Enquiring minds (who are trying to build a bike around this darn thing and are stumped by the chainring clearance problem) want to know.</p>
<p>-Walt</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kenny -

I weighed it all (48/26 drivetrain) versus my chain drive (34 DH ring/steel 20t cog/PC951 chain) and the weight difference is about 60g. Not sure what setup you normally run, it&#039;d be a decent amount lighter as compared to, say, a big thick 1/8&quot; chain. With a lightish chainring and cog on a chain drive setup, the weight savings are &lt;1 oz.

That&#039;s not really the point though, as I see it. Quiet, strong, reliable, reasonably efficient, did I mention quiet? 

I&#039;m psyched to get mine built up.

-Walt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kenny -</p>
<p>I weighed it all (48/26 drivetrain) versus my chain drive (34 DH ring/steel 20t cog/PC951 chain) and the weight difference is about 60g. Not sure what setup you normally run, it&#8217;d be a decent amount lighter as compared to, say, a big thick 1/8&#8243; chain. With a lightish chainring and cog on a chain drive setup, the weight savings are &lt;1 oz.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not really the point though, as I see it. Quiet, strong, reliable, reasonably efficient, did I mention quiet? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m psyched to get mine built up.</p>
<p>-Walt</p>
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		<title>By: The GPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The GPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also (can&#039;t help myself) this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVPjhmTThPo&amp;feature=related

Man work is slow today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also (can&#8217;t help myself) this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVPjhmTThPo&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVPjhmTThPo&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Man work is slow today!</p>
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		<title>By: The GPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The GPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, since your are dicussing alternate uses for the drive train, check out this YouTube video. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlFxh64V66U&amp;NR=1
I stumbled across it and it absolutley blew my mind. The thought that we could pedal a bicycle without a chain or pulley drive train at all is pretty awesome. Plus the video has a distinctly &quot;Ikea&quot; type feel to it. Bet the swiss invented this contraption. 
Btw the way, I am starting to get a real hankering for a single speed 29er. Thanks a lot (sarcastic)!
My best to Susan.
GPC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, since your are dicussing alternate uses for the drive train, check out this YouTube video.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlFxh64V66U&amp;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlFxh64V66U&amp;NR=1</a><br />
I stumbled across it and it absolutley blew my mind. The thought that we could pedal a bicycle without a chain or pulley drive train at all is pretty awesome. Plus the video has a distinctly &#8220;Ikea&#8221; type feel to it. Bet the swiss invented this contraption.<br />
Btw the way, I am starting to get a real hankering for a single speed 29er. Thanks a lot (sarcastic)!<br />
My best to Susan.<br />
GPC</p>
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		<title>By: Chubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing.  Maybe Kenny can guest-blog a follow-up review in a few months?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing.  Maybe Kenny can guest-blog a follow-up review in a few months?</p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My tensioner was spots old one. (worked with the chain not the belt)  They&#039;re sending me the new tensioner with my new sprocket.  I&#039;m thinking the belt and sprockets are about a half pound lighter than the chain, rings and cogs.  Someday I&#039;ll have to accually verify those numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My tensioner was spots old one. (worked with the chain not the belt)  They&#8217;re sending me the new tensioner with my new sprocket.  I&#8217;m thinking the belt and sprockets are about a half pound lighter than the chain, rings and cogs.  Someday I&#8217;ll have to accually verify those numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: buckythedonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckythedonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny, surprised not to see a chain tug on the drive side. Is that what you mean by not having the right tensioner?

WIN SUSAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, surprised not to see a chain tug on the drive side. Is that what you mean by not having the right tensioner?</p>
<p>WIN SUSAN!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Roadie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Roadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us poor road folk.................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us poor road folk&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mike In Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2008/08/28/how-to-ride-other-peoples-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-405886</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Mike In Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Size 43 shoes???  Me too!!!  Next thing you&#039;re gonna say you&#039;re 5&#039;8&quot;, early 40s and balding.  And I&#039;ll bet the seat on your road bike is 27.25&quot; from the BB axle.

When you come to visit all you have to bring is a toothbrush.  But make sure you have your name written clearly on both forearms in permanent marker.

It&#039;s growing more and more likely that we&#039;re twins.  And not the Schwarzenegger/DeVito kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Size 43 shoes???  Me too!!!  Next thing you&#8217;re gonna say you&#8217;re 5&#8242;8&#8243;, early 40s and balding.  And I&#8217;ll bet the seat on your road bike is 27.25&#8243; from the BB axle.</p>
<p>When you come to visit all you have to bring is a toothbrush.  But make sure you have your name written clearly on both forearms in permanent marker.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s growing more and more likely that we&#8217;re twins.  And not the Schwarzenegger/DeVito kind.</p>
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