Comments on: My Bike Philosophy http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/ It's like reality TV. Except it's real. And there's no TV. Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:21:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Rich http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-2/#comment-422280 Rich Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:37:34 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-422280 What Grant said. The rear wheel path of the Cannondale Judge couldn't be simpler - there is only one relevant pivot on it, the one just above the BB. Notice solid metal from it all the way to the rear axle? Single Pivot - the rear axle moves in a circle. Despite the millions of different looking FS bikes, there's only a few basic kinds, some of which aren't that different from the others.. * "Four bar" (Horst Link - Specialized FSR, Giant NRS, Titus etc) - which would become DW-link, if you just moved the pivot below the rear axle (chain stay) most of the way towards the Bottom Bracket. * DW-link (Giant's Maestro, BMC VPS etc) * VPS systems similar to DW-link but with the top pivot on the frame located ABOVE the top pivot on the rear triangle instead of below. * Single Pivot (inc Kona Faux-bar, Trek Fuel Ex; unless the pivot is below or below and foward the rear axle, it doesn't count.) The rear axle path is a circle, that's all. * A few wacky Floating pivot bikes (with REAL floating pivots, IE, more than 4 of them) (OK, so there's leverage at the shock .. but hey, choose a shock with damping the ProPedal-like damping that works for you and forget about it!) What Grant said. The rear wheel path of the Cannondale Judge couldn’t be simpler – there is only one relevant pivot on it, the one just above the BB. Notice solid metal from it all the way to the rear axle? Single Pivot – the rear axle moves in a circle.

Despite the millions of different looking FS bikes, there’s only a few basic kinds, some of which aren’t that different from the others..

* “Four bar” (Horst Link – Specialized FSR, Giant NRS, Titus etc) – which would become DW-link, if you just moved the pivot below the rear axle (chain stay) most of the way towards the Bottom Bracket.

* DW-link (Giant’s Maestro, BMC VPS etc)

* VPS systems similar to DW-link but with the top pivot on the frame located ABOVE the top pivot on the rear triangle instead of below.

* Single Pivot (inc Kona Faux-bar, Trek Fuel Ex; unless the pivot is below or below and foward the rear axle, it doesn’t count.) The rear axle path is a circle, that’s all.

* A few wacky Floating pivot bikes (with REAL floating pivots, IE, more than 4 of them)

(OK, so there’s leverage at the shock .. but hey, choose a shock with damping the ProPedal-like damping that works for you and forget about it!)

]]> By: B. Goat http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-2/#comment-422012 B. Goat Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:02:34 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-422012 Cycloid is now my new favorite word. I guess I am a lucky one that feels my bike is an extension of my body. Whether it is multi, single, fixed or free. I do find being able to work on all my bikes helps the relationship though. I'm new to your blog. You do an excellent job. I look foreword to coming back. Cycloid is now my new favorite word. I guess I am a lucky one that feels my bike is an extension of my body. Whether it is multi, single, fixed or free. I do find being able to work on all my bikes helps the relationship though. I’m new to your blog. You do an excellent job. I look foreword to coming back.

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]]> By: Big Mike In Oz http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421783 Big Mike In Oz Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:56:05 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421783 "... ride a bike I understand." I even think your Waltworks has too many moving parts. That's why I took up track racing; no gears no brakes no ratchets no freewheeling no climbing no descending no right hand turns “… ride a bike I understand.”

I even think your Waltworks has too many moving parts. That’s why I took up track racing;
no gears
no brakes
no ratchets
no freewheeling
no climbing
no descending
no right hand turns

]]> By: Dobovedo http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421700 Dobovedo Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:17:23 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421700 Clydesteve, Nailed it. Clydesteve,

Nailed it.

]]> By: Jaime O. http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421693 Jaime O. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:30:03 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421693 Fatty, try not to give yourself a stroke while out on a nice bike ride. goodness. lol Fatty, try not to give yourself a stroke while out on a nice bike ride. goodness. lol

]]> By: Nate http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421657 Nate Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:18:29 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421657 I got a real laugh when I clicked on the judge link and the first thing that I saw was this quote about their suspension design... "Out on the course, downhillers don't have time to think. That's why Cannondale's engineers designed the Judge with staged suspension travel. " I got a real laugh when I clicked on the judge link and the first thing that I saw was this quote about their suspension design…

“Out on the course, downhillers don’t have time to think. That’s why Cannondale’s engineers designed the Judge with staged suspension travel. “

]]> By: Hamish A http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421656 Hamish A Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:15:06 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421656 I'd have to say that last piece of advice from Wild Dingo applies to guys as well as women riders... I've lost count of the number of men I've found stranded for some piffling mechanical reason they can't figure out. Suspension isn't all that complicated Fatty, the FSR is just a 'simple' 4 bar system, the Judge is a single pivot (it only gets simpler with a softail) and the 2-Stage bikes only look complicated, they're really not. Suspension made a big change to my riding so I wouldn't want to be without it. Saying that though for the past 6 weeks I've been riding a fully rigid, steel, 29er singlespeed and loving every minute of it :-) Great post, made me think (thanks for that, on a Friday...) and it turns out I can draw how all my suspension bikes work. Oh dear, I'm a Bike Geek. Have a great weekend. WIN!!! I’d have to say that last piece of advice from Wild Dingo applies to guys as well as women riders… I’ve lost count of the number of men I’ve found stranded for some piffling mechanical reason they can’t figure out.

Suspension isn’t all that complicated Fatty, the FSR is just a ’simple’ 4 bar system, the Judge is a single pivot (it only gets simpler with a softail) and the 2-Stage bikes only look complicated, they’re really not. Suspension made a big change to my riding so I wouldn’t want to be without it. Saying that though for the past 6 weeks I’ve been riding a fully rigid, steel, 29er singlespeed and loving every minute of it :-)

Great post, made me think (thanks for that, on a Friday…) and it turns out I can draw how all my suspension bikes work. Oh dear, I’m a Bike Geek.

Have a great weekend.

WIN!!!

]]> By: Wild Dingo http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421653 Wild Dingo Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:10:09 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421653 Dude, i totally take it seriously! (grin) but sadly its the reason why i ride a hard tail. what's that they say? the harder the bike, the harder the rider? :) i'd also add, for a chick: ride a bike you can fix if you're stranded by yourself. Dude, i totally take it seriously! (grin) but sadly its the reason why i ride a hard tail. what’s that they say? the harder the bike, the harder the rider? :) i’d also add, for a chick: ride a bike you can fix if you’re stranded by yourself.

]]> By: Clydesteve http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-421652 Clydesteve Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:55:30 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/01/08/my-bike-philosophy/#comment-421652 OK, Fatty, joke's over. You sucked in a lot of people who are taking you seriously. This IS a funny column, after all. OK, Fatty, joke’s over. You sucked in a lot of people who are taking you seriously.

This IS a funny column, after all.

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