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	<title>Comments on: Stuff That&#8217;s Come in the Mail, Part III: Klunkerz</title>
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		<title>By: Reparations for a Wasted Youth &#124; Dyna Fat Loss</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-460538</link>
		<dc:creator>Reparations for a Wasted Youth &#124; Dyna Fat Loss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bike. Certainly, it&#8217; s understandable that I didn&#8217;t own a mountain bike. If I had, then Klunkerz would have been about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bike. Certainly, it&#8217; s understandable that I didn&#8217;t own a mountain bike. If I had, then Klunkerz would have been about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reparations for a Wasted Youth</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-460415</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reparations for a Wasted Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bike. Certainly, it&#8217; s understandable that I didn&#8217;t own a mountain bike. If I had, then Klunkerz would have been about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bike. Certainly, it&#8217; s understandable that I didn&#8217;t own a mountain bike. If I had, then Klunkerz would have been about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424657</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey fatty,

My family started making bicycles in jolly old England a long time ago.  I didn&#039;t know anything about it until recently and started doing some research.

Here&#039;s some info I have on that. 

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/Hopper_Elswick/El_Hopper_main.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey fatty,</p>
<p>My family started making bicycles in jolly old England a long time ago.  I didn&#8217;t know anything about it until recently and started doing some research.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some info I have on that. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/Hopper_Elswick/El_Hopper_main.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/Hopper_Elswick/El_Hopper_main.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Billy Savage and Charlie Kelly Respond to My Review of Klunkerz</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424642</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Cyclist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Billy Savage and Charlie Kelly Respond to My Review of Klunkerz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#171; Stuff That&#8217;s Come in the Mail, Part III: Klunkerz [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fatty</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424639</link>
		<dc:creator>fatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>billy - i understand why you would want to focus on accomplishment rather than rivalry in the film, but the subtext of the film makes it certain that there was a problem between some of these people. fights happen all the time, but resolution doesn&#039;t. you explain above charlie and gary have resolved their differences. my point in the review is that rather than hinting at but otherwise ignoring differences, you could have made them clear, especially considering that both men seem to happy with both their past and present. 

i feel like a dope even going into this at all, because i have never made a film in my life, and have no idea what goes into the making of decisions about what goes into a documentary and what stays out. 

if you&#039;d like to take the time to rewrite the comment you mentioned justifying the use of accomplishment rather than drama and want to email it to me, i will make it a full post, rather than a comment, so people can see your side of things. 

finally, i hope you did see that this is in fact a positive review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>billy &#8211; i understand why you would want to focus on accomplishment rather than rivalry in the film, but the subtext of the film makes it certain that there was a problem between some of these people. fights happen all the time, but resolution doesn&#8217;t. you explain above charlie and gary have resolved their differences. my point in the review is that rather than hinting at but otherwise ignoring differences, you could have made them clear, especially considering that both men seem to happy with both their past and present. </p>
<p>i feel like a dope even going into this at all, because i have never made a film in my life, and have no idea what goes into the making of decisions about what goes into a documentary and what stays out. </p>
<p>if you&#8217;d like to take the time to rewrite the comment you mentioned justifying the use of accomplishment rather than drama and want to email it to me, i will make it a full post, rather than a comment, so people can see your side of things. </p>
<p>finally, i hope you did see that this is in fact a positive review.</p>
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		<title>By: fatty</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424638</link>
		<dc:creator>fatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>repack rider - sorry about your comment that appeared to have disappeared. when someone puts more than one URL in my comments, it gets held for moderation, because 2 URLs usually means spam. your comment is out of moderation now (ie, visible to everyone and in its rightful place). in a few minutes i&#039;m going to see if i can get your images to display. and sorry about no preview. i run wordpress pretty much out of the box.

as to the inaccuracy, i&#039;m not sure whether to apologize or not. the film certainly gave the impression that you were fired, and i was reviewing the film. 

your comment above really does explain a lot and displays an enviable worldview. and that should have been in the film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>repack rider &#8211; sorry about your comment that appeared to have disappeared. when someone puts more than one URL in my comments, it gets held for moderation, because 2 URLs usually means spam. your comment is out of moderation now (ie, visible to everyone and in its rightful place). in a few minutes i&#8217;m going to see if i can get your images to display. and sorry about no preview. i run wordpress pretty much out of the box.</p>
<p>as to the inaccuracy, i&#8217;m not sure whether to apologize or not. the film certainly gave the impression that you were fired, and i was reviewing the film. </p>
<p>your comment above really does explain a lot and displays an enviable worldview. and that should have been in the film.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424635</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you made statement about me and my relationship with Gary Fisher that was not accurate, I posted a long and thoughtful response last night.  It disappeared.

Check out my website.

http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/mtbwelcome.htm

[img]http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/repackrider/FTF_logo3.jpg[/img]

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;note from fatty&lt;/strong&gt;: the comment charlie&#039;s referring to was originally automatically held for moderation because it had a couple URLs in it. i&#039;ve approved the comment and you can see it in its entirety above.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you made statement about me and my relationship with Gary Fisher that was not accurate, I posted a long and thoughtful response last night.  It disappeared.</p>
<p>Check out my website.</p>
<p><a href="http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/mtbwelcome.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/mtbwelcome.htm</a></p>
<p><img src="http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/repackrider/FTF_logo3.jpg" alt="FTF_logo3.jpg" /></p>
<p><em><strong>note from fatty</strong>: the comment charlie&#8217;s referring to was originally automatically held for moderation because it had a couple URLs in it. i&#8217;ve approved the comment and you can see it in its entirety above.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Billy Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424633</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Gary and Charlie may not have been speaking when I started the film, but since that time things have changed. They have traveled a great many places together in support of the film...Durango, Los Angeles, San Diego, and even to Scotland for the Scottish premiere. It was there that they raced Penny Farthings for &#039;the honour of Scotland&#039;...and a bottle of Single Malt, just like the old friends that they are. [img]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/klunkerbill/DSC_2317.jpg[/img]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Gary and Charlie may not have been speaking when I started the film, but since that time things have changed. They have traveled a great many places together in support of the film&#8230;Durango, Los Angeles, San Diego, and even to Scotland for the Scottish premiere. It was there that they raced Penny Farthings for &#8216;the honour of Scotland&#8217;&#8230;and a bottle of Single Malt, just like the old friends that they are. <img src="http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/klunkerbill/DSC_2317.jpg" alt="DSC_2317.jpg" /></p>
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		<title>By: Billy Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424632</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to add a long comment  thanking you and justifying the film&#039;s use  of accomplishment rather than rivalry to create drama. I also made an attempt to explain the complicated relationship between Gary and Charlie, but it didn&#039;t post, so I&#039;ll just say &#039;thanks&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to add a long comment  thanking you and justifying the film&#8217;s use  of accomplishment rather than rivalry to create drama. I also made an attempt to explain the complicated relationship between Gary and Charlie, but it didn&#8217;t post, so I&#8217;ll just say &#8216;thanks&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2009/02/12/stuff-thats-come-in-the-mail-part-iii-klunkerz/comment-page-1/#comment-424628</link>
		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E,

You write a mean review. Good insight. Perhaps you should give up your day job and go pro. Seriously, you really nailed this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E,</p>
<p>You write a mean review. Good insight. Perhaps you should give up your day job and go pro. Seriously, you really nailed this one.</p>
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