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	<title>Comments on: Fight Cancer, Win a Dream Bike or Dream Trip: Unexpectedly Serious Edition</title>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...no matter what stance you take on the &lt;i&gt;&#039;lance issue&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, fatty (&amp; despite my opinions, i&#039;m not gonna comment here one way or the other out of respect for you), it&#039;s pretty obvious that you are an extremely straight up guy with a big heart...

...now, once again, about snob&#039;s &lt;i&gt;&#039;the enlightened cyclist&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, i find that blah, blah, blah......(recedes into background)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;no matter what stance you take on the <i>&#8216;lance issue&#8217;</i>, fatty (&amp; despite my opinions, i&#8217;m not gonna comment here one way or the other out of respect for you), it&#8217;s pretty obvious that you are an extremely straight up guy with a big heart&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;now, once again, about snob&#8217;s <i>&#8216;the enlightened cyclist&#8217;</i>, i find that blah, blah, blah&#8230;&#8230;(recedes into background)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right with you about Lance, I hope the media doesn&#039;t demonize him too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right with you about Lance, I hope the media doesn&#8217;t demonize him too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty, I don&#039;t agree on your view of Lance and Johan&#039;s predicament.  But, I like the way you put it out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatty, I don&#8217;t agree on your view of Lance and Johan&#8217;s predicament.  But, I like the way you put it out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of me doesn&#039;t want to care whether or not they did it.  Life isn&#039;t fair, right?  Some large percentage of the field probably did it anyway, right? So what&#039;s the point of a witch hunt?  

Here&#039;s the &quot;but&quot;...my kids are young, and they understand that cheating is wrong.  I tell them that cheating is wrong even if you don&#039;t get caught.  It is wrong even if you raise lots of money for a good cause.  I don&#039;t want them to think I don&#039;t care when people are being fundamentally unfair. They are going to learn soon enough that life isn&#039;t fair, but I still want them to think that fairness is worth fighting for.

If people cheat, they deserve to face the consequences.  I don&#039;t think the investigation should carry on indefinitely or at any expense, though.  When they ask about this particular issue, I tell my kids that there is a lot of evidence that implicates these people did not follow the rules, but it hasn&#039;t been proven and we are fortunate to live in a place where you are assumed innocent until proven otherwise.

Also, when my kids do bad things, I tell them that everyone makes bad choices sometimes, but that doesn&#039;t make them bad people. I believe this is true for everybody...my kids and TdF riders alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of me doesn&#8217;t want to care whether or not they did it.  Life isn&#8217;t fair, right?  Some large percentage of the field probably did it anyway, right? So what&#8217;s the point of a witch hunt?  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the &#8220;but&#8221;&#8230;my kids are young, and they understand that cheating is wrong.  I tell them that cheating is wrong even if you don&#8217;t get caught.  It is wrong even if you raise lots of money for a good cause.  I don&#8217;t want them to think I don&#8217;t care when people are being fundamentally unfair. They are going to learn soon enough that life isn&#8217;t fair, but I still want them to think that fairness is worth fighting for.</p>
<p>If people cheat, they deserve to face the consequences.  I don&#8217;t think the investigation should carry on indefinitely or at any expense, though.  When they ask about this particular issue, I tell my kids that there is a lot of evidence that implicates these people did not follow the rules, but it hasn&#8217;t been proven and we are fortunate to live in a place where you are assumed innocent until proven otherwise.</p>
<p>Also, when my kids do bad things, I tell them that everyone makes bad choices sometimes, but that doesn&#8217;t make them bad people. I believe this is true for everybody&#8230;my kids and TdF riders alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Elden.  Thanks for the great post.  I admire the good that you, Lance and LiveStrong do.  It adds motivation to me to keep on doing good in my life, too.

See you in Davis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elden.  Thanks for the great post.  I admire the good that you, Lance and LiveStrong do.  It adds motivation to me to keep on doing good in my life, too.</p>
<p>See you in Davis!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody can possibly benefit from this lawsuit.  Although the USADA gets only partial funding from the government, I still find it embarrassing that government funds are involved in this at all.  What a waste of money.  I signed the petition on whitehouse.gov asking that they stop this investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody can possibly benefit from this lawsuit.  Although the USADA gets only partial funding from the government, I still find it embarrassing that government funds are involved in this at all.  What a waste of money.  I signed the petition on whitehouse.gov asking that they stop this investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: wishiwasmerckx</title>
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		<dc:creator>wishiwasmerckx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether he doped or not, Lance is a freak of nature genetically gifted with a heart size, VO2 max and lactate threshold that mere mortals can only dream of.

The USADA alleges a conspiracy that involved multiple teams over a decade and a half. Over the years, that would mean dozens upon dozens of rostered riders. Query, how many riders were targeted by the USADA investigation? 

The answer is one. The question is why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether he doped or not, Lance is a freak of nature genetically gifted with a heart size, VO2 max and lactate threshold that mere mortals can only dream of.</p>
<p>The USADA alleges a conspiracy that involved multiple teams over a decade and a half. Over the years, that would mean dozens upon dozens of rostered riders. Query, how many riders were targeted by the USADA investigation? </p>
<p>The answer is one. The question is why?</p>
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		<title>By: Superstantial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superstantial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, those lyrics you chose should have been a good deterrent to anyone.  

Thanks for humoring me (hah! puns!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, those lyrics you chose should have been a good deterrent to anyone.  </p>
<p>Thanks for humoring me (hah! puns!)</p>
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		<title>By: GrannyGear</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrannyGear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post today. 
Had not planned on contributing to your Dream Trip/Bike, mostly because I was afraid of winning and then, being a true Clydesdale, having to ride with you at my blistering 12MPH pace (descending). But, this post was inspiring. Your total contribution just went up.
Kuddos Elden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post today.<br />
Had not planned on contributing to your Dream Trip/Bike, mostly because I was afraid of winning and then, being a true Clydesdale, having to ride with you at my blistering 12MPH pace (descending). But, this post was inspiring. Your total contribution just went up.<br />
Kuddos Elden.</p>
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		<title>By: Demonic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demonic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife says that I have a big case of hero worship regarding Lance, which is probably true. That being said, I think his legacy is his Livestrong foundation, not his wins.

What&#039;s the point in going after retired athletes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife says that I have a big case of hero worship regarding Lance, which is probably true. That being said, I think his legacy is his Livestrong foundation, not his wins.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point in going after retired athletes?</p>
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