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	<title>Comments on: My Son, Depression, and Cigna</title>
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		<title>By: Oliver Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/07/23/my-son-depression-and-cigna/comment-page-3/#comment-563426</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be very careful with taking both ‘natural’ medicines and prescription medicines for depression. I experienced Serotonin Syndrome after taking both SAMe and Ginko Biloba, as well as the prescription drug Elevil. The Wikipedia article on Serotonin Syndrome says that it can also be experienced with St John’s Wort, Yohimbe, and Boswellia, as well as a number of other drugs (both legal and illegal)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://originalcialis.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;general health&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be very careful with taking both ‘natural’ medicines and prescription medicines for depression. I experienced Serotonin Syndrome after taking both SAMe and Ginko Biloba, as well as the prescription drug Elevil. The Wikipedia article on Serotonin Syndrome says that it can also be experienced with St John’s Wort, Yohimbe, and Boswellia, as well as a number of other drugs (both legal and illegal)<br />
<a href="http://originalcialis.com" rel="nofollow">general health</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/07/23/my-son-depression-and-cigna/comment-page-3/#comment-563062</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is repeat info that someone else has already suggested, but my eye&#039;s started to hurt reviewing all the responses (you&#039;ve got a lot of fans you fatty!!),

However, since you&#039;ve already gone through the Cigna medical review, have you contacted Cigna about an independent review yet?

http://www.insurance.utah.gov/health/IndependentReview.html

best of luck, I hope this situation gets corrected.

Fat Willy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is repeat info that someone else has already suggested, but my eye&#8217;s started to hurt reviewing all the responses (you&#8217;ve got a lot of fans you fatty!!),</p>
<p>However, since you&#8217;ve already gone through the Cigna medical review, have you contacted Cigna about an independent review yet?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insurance.utah.gov/health/IndependentReview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.insurance.utah.gov/health/IndependentReview.html</a></p>
<p>best of luck, I hope this situation gets corrected.</p>
<p>Fat Willy</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 06:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wanted to let you all  know...that things worked out very well..well i should have told u this out for along time..as a matter of a week ago..but i wanted to give this comment out when i was fully confident that things are working out... Brianna  is back wid me..our relationship is just like before the first time we met, do you need his help here is the man that help me email address wiseindividualspell@gmail.com to contact him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wanted to let you all  know&#8230;that things worked out very well..well i should have told u this out for along time..as a matter of a week ago..but i wanted to give this comment out when i was fully confident that things are working out&#8230; Brianna  is back wid me..our relationship is just like before the first time we met, do you need his help here is the man that help me email address <a href="mailto:wiseindividualspell@gmail.com">wiseindividualspell@gmail.com</a> to contact him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/07/23/my-son-depression-and-cigna/comment-page-3/#comment-562898</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must remember that the last thing an insurance company wants to do is pay. The bigger the hit the more they drag their feet. We have dealt with insurance companies for many years and the least of their concerns is the needs of the insured. Insurance companies will always deny big claims first, second or third go around. Something like 70-80% of the insured will give up and go away, that is what the insurance company is counting.. But I have seen, many times, insured individuals that will not take no for an answer and will not let the insurance company off the hook and believe it or not they end up paying. So my advice is to keep after them, be the bulldog that you are and do not give in. Remembe, the greasy wheel gets the grease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must remember that the last thing an insurance company wants to do is pay. The bigger the hit the more they drag their feet. We have dealt with insurance companies for many years and the least of their concerns is the needs of the insured. Insurance companies will always deny big claims first, second or third go around. Something like 70-80% of the insured will give up and go away, that is what the insurance company is counting.. But I have seen, many times, insured individuals that will not take no for an answer and will not let the insurance company off the hook and believe it or not they end up paying. So my advice is to keep after them, be the bulldog that you are and do not give in. Remembe, the greasy wheel gets the grease.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sad to say that I&#039;ve had a similar experience with Cigna. I&#039;ll send an email on your behalf. I ended up paying by myself... and I&#039;ve experienced depression so I know how very very debilitating it is. You don&#039;t deserve this so I hope with all my heart that Cigna sees the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sad to say that I&#8217;ve had a similar experience with Cigna. I&#8217;ll send an email on your behalf. I ended up paying by myself&#8230; and I&#8217;ve experienced depression so I know how very very debilitating it is. You don&#8217;t deserve this so I hope with all my heart that Cigna sees the light.</p>
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		<title>By: BigD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about this, I retweeted the link and let me know what else I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about this, I retweeted the link and let me know what else I can do.</p>
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		<title>By: TimD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to make light but its the only way Scouser&#039;s know to cope.  I think what you need is a new Magic Quadrant published.  Instead of the normal criteria we could have humanity and ability to help as the axes.

More seriously, get your HR dept and whoever does your corporate insurance deals involved.  Pressure and/or bad press from such a prestigious customer count for lots.

To those looking over to Europe with longing/envy, I&#039;m sorry to say that, at least in the UK, mental health comes a long way down the pecking order.  We have had basically the same response as Eldon, unless there is an imminent danger either to himself, others or their property, our son was pretty low down the priority list.

Hope things get better, I really do.  Can&#039;t offer much advice but we can offer lots of sympathy. Feel free to email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to make light but its the only way Scouser&#8217;s know to cope.  I think what you need is a new Magic Quadrant published.  Instead of the normal criteria we could have humanity and ability to help as the axes.</p>
<p>More seriously, get your HR dept and whoever does your corporate insurance deals involved.  Pressure and/or bad press from such a prestigious customer count for lots.</p>
<p>To those looking over to Europe with longing/envy, I&#8217;m sorry to say that, at least in the UK, mental health comes a long way down the pecking order.  We have had basically the same response as Eldon, unless there is an imminent danger either to himself, others or their property, our son was pretty low down the priority list.</p>
<p>Hope things get better, I really do.  Can&#8217;t offer much advice but we can offer lots of sympathy. Feel free to email.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty, so sorry to hear of your son&#039;s condition.  It&#039;s a serious health issue that&#039;s often disregarded/neglected by insurance companies.   Actuaries like clinical studies that support their decisions, like pills and surgeries.  Not all mental health treatment works the same with patients.
I for one can&#039;t understand why this country seems to have so much distain for &quot;Obama Care&quot; while totally glossing  over the failures of our current system.    I&#039;m not so much a supporter of the President&#039;s plan as bewildered the failures of our current system have been forgotten.   
Personally, my insurance offers terrible coverage yet costs $930 a month (family of 5).  Fortunately, that&#039;s only 9-10% of the household&#039;s gross revenue.  That percentage would be double if we were &quot;middle working class income&quot;.   Just image if  the premium were called a &quot;tax&quot;, and a tax that increased 10% per year.   Would that draw any attention from my GOP friends?   (I&#039;m a pissed off political independent)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatty, so sorry to hear of your son&#8217;s condition.  It&#8217;s a serious health issue that&#8217;s often disregarded/neglected by insurance companies.   Actuaries like clinical studies that support their decisions, like pills and surgeries.  Not all mental health treatment works the same with patients.<br />
I for one can&#8217;t understand why this country seems to have so much distain for &#8220;Obama Care&#8221; while totally glossing  over the failures of our current system.    I&#8217;m not so much a supporter of the President&#8217;s plan as bewildered the failures of our current system have been forgotten.<br />
Personally, my insurance offers terrible coverage yet costs $930 a month (family of 5).  Fortunately, that&#8217;s only 9-10% of the household&#8217;s gross revenue.  That percentage would be double if we were &#8220;middle working class income&#8221;.   Just image if  the premium were called a &#8220;tax&#8221;, and a tax that increased 10% per year.   Would that draw any attention from my GOP friends?   (I&#8217;m a pissed off political independent)</p>
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		<title>By: Tiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty, I&#039;ve been following your blog for years and rarely comment - I don&#039;t even ride a bike!  I&#039;m in Australia and can&#039;t do much, but I will be praying for Brice, you and the rest of your family.  Your frustration &amp; sense of urgency are palpable and justified.  I pray you&#039;ll see positive results very soon and look forward to reading an update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatty, I&#8217;ve been following your blog for years and rarely comment &#8211; I don&#8217;t even ride a bike!  I&#8217;m in Australia and can&#8217;t do much, but I will be praying for Brice, you and the rest of your family.  Your frustration &amp; sense of urgency are palpable and justified.  I pray you&#8217;ll see positive results very soon and look forward to reading an update.</p>
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		<title>By: GenghisKhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GenghisKhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Fatty&#039;s Army.  Can someone with more technical and marketing ability than I simply start a donation page so we can get some fund-raising going?  Something along the lines of the Karen Klein effort?

Then, if the insurance company pulls through, Fatty can convert the funds to a LiveStrong, World Bike Relief or whatever campaign.  If not, then there&#039;s a bit o&#039; cash to help Brice.

Someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Fatty&#8217;s Army.  Can someone with more technical and marketing ability than I simply start a donation page so we can get some fund-raising going?  Something along the lines of the Karen Klein effort?</p>
<p>Then, if the insurance company pulls through, Fatty can convert the funds to a LiveStrong, World Bike Relief or whatever campaign.  If not, then there&#8217;s a bit o&#8217; cash to help Brice.</p>
<p>Someone?</p>
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