Comments on: 2015 Leadville 100 Race Report, Part 3: Return of the Son of Joyful Warrior http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/ It's like reality TV. Except it's real. And there's no TV. Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:21:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Paige http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666062 Paige Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:59:51 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666062 You have sucked me into this report and now all I can do is hit refresh over and over hoping the next install is posted. Sigh....I wish your writing and race reports sucked. You have sucked me into this report and now all I can do is hit refresh over and over hoping the next install is posted.

Sigh….I wish your writing and race reports sucked.

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666061 Jeff Dieffenbach Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:57:22 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666061 @MattC, easy answer here. You can do Leadville. You just need to do it Sub-6. You're welcome! [grin] @MattC, easy answer here. You can do Leadville. You just need to do it Sub-6. You’re welcome! [grin]

]]> By: MattC http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666059 MattC Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:35:26 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666059 @Jeff, davidh and rb, thanks for the info. I guess there's really only 1 way for me to understand what it's like...that's to RIDE it (but not the whole race, just the climbs/descents). @davidh...uhm, well, thanks for the invite...but riding my bike for more than 6 or 7 hours (ok...let's be serious here and call it 5 hours) is no fun at ALL for me. I've done right around 6.5 hours the last 6 Saturdays in a row, and quite honestly, I've HATED the last hour (plus) every time. My neck (stemming from an injury when I was a young indestructible lad of 20) gets SO sore that no amount of 800mg Motrins help. I can't even begin to describe the depth of HOW MUCH I want to NOT be on the bike anymore when I pass 6 hours. So sadly, as enticing as the great Leadville Trail 100 is (and the great fun of hanging out w/ all of Team Fatty and company would truly be), I'll have to pass and live vicariously through you all. Too bad my bro Greg doesn't MTB anymore...he'd be a natural. He LOVES pain and can dish it out for 11+ hours (he's fallen into somehow liking double-centuries these last few years). I'd crew for him tho (Greg? any interest in Leadville?) @Jeff, davidh and rb, thanks for the info. I guess there’s really only 1 way for me to understand what it’s like…that’s to RIDE it (but not the whole race, just the climbs/descents).

@davidh…uhm, well, thanks for the invite…but riding my bike for more than 6 or 7 hours (ok…let’s be serious here and call it 5 hours) is no fun at ALL for me. I’ve done right around 6.5 hours the last 6 Saturdays in a row, and quite honestly, I’ve HATED the last hour (plus) every time. My neck (stemming from an injury when I was a young indestructible lad of 20) gets SO sore that no amount of 800mg Motrins help. I can’t even begin to describe the depth of HOW MUCH I want to NOT be on the bike anymore when I pass 6 hours.

So sadly, as enticing as the great Leadville Trail 100 is (and the great fun of hanging out w/ all of Team Fatty and company would truly be), I’ll have to pass and live vicariously through you all. Too bad my bro Greg doesn’t MTB anymore…he’d be a natural. He LOVES pain and can dish it out for 11+ hours (he’s fallen into somehow liking double-centuries these last few years). I’d crew for him tho (Greg? any interest in Leadville?)

]]> By: rb http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666051 rb Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:04:03 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666051 @MattC Powerline has roots at the top, rocks at the bottom. there's plenty of opportunity for sidewall cuts and for sudden lateral force (sliding sideways, into a rut) to cause a burping tire. more than that, I think the powerline DH is the first time on race day the bike setup is really tested. If there was a weakness in a tire or the seal, the top section of powerline is going to expose it. I think this because for as steep, rocky, and fast as the columbine DH is, no one seems to be broken down there. @MattC Powerline has roots at the top, rocks at the bottom. there’s plenty of opportunity for sidewall cuts and for sudden lateral force (sliding sideways, into a rut) to cause a burping tire.

more than that, I think the powerline DH is the first time on race day the bike setup is really tested. If there was a weakness in a tire or the seal, the top section of powerline is going to expose it. I think this because for as steep, rocky, and fast as the columbine DH is, no one seems to be broken down there.

]]> By: davidh-Marin,ca http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666050 davidh-Marin,ca Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:03:50 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666050 @mattc Jeff D is a data nerd, and for that I personally say 'thank you'. Poor pressures will probably be the prevailing response. As a Clydesdale I did not find any of the rocky sections difficult on the tire, but you had to pick your line. I think there were many who chose to 'bomb it', and in doing that there were some rock sections with hard, sharp, deep bottoms. There are only 360 days or so till <b>Leadville 2016</b>. It's not too early to get The Team together! I'm talking to you. @MattC, @NicGrillo, @CarlosPerea, @ChrisD, .....you got the idea, we all need our 'buckles' @NancyS. Interested? @mattc
Jeff D is a data nerd, and for that I personally say ‘thank you’. Poor pressures will probably be the prevailing response.

As a Clydesdale I did not find any of the rocky sections difficult on the tire, but you had to pick your line. I think there were many who chose to ‘bomb it’, and in doing that there were some rock sections with hard, sharp, deep bottoms.

There are only 360 days or so till Leadville 2016. It’s not too early to get The Team together!
I’m talking to you. @MattC, @NicGrillo, @CarlosPerea, @ChrisD, …..you got the idea, we all need our ‘buckles’

@NancyS. Interested?

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666049 Jeff Dieffenbach Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:15:32 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666049 @MattC, I'm by no means an MTB expert, but I think the flats were more likely from pressure too high, not too low. Powerline was rocky on the shallower stuff at the top, but my tubeless setup absorbed it flawlessley. At the bottom, Powerline was smooth on the steeper stuff. Columbine was pretty much the same. Perhaps too much pressure was coupled with too rigid a posture on the bike. Based on great tips that I received, I tried to use my arms/legs as additions to the bike's full suspension. I think that it would be GREAT if the Leadville organizers would do a follow-up survey to ask people what equipment (and pressure) they rode and what mechanicals they had. There could be some excellent learning there. @MattC, I’m by no means an MTB expert, but I think the flats were more likely from pressure too high, not too low.

Powerline was rocky on the shallower stuff at the top, but my tubeless setup absorbed it flawlessley. At the bottom, Powerline was smooth on the steeper stuff. Columbine was pretty much the same.

Perhaps too much pressure was coupled with too rigid a posture on the bike. Based on great tips that I received, I tried to use my arms/legs as additions to the bike’s full suspension.

I think that it would be GREAT if the Leadville organizers would do a follow-up survey to ask people what equipment (and pressure) they rode and what mechanicals they had. There could be some excellent learning there.

]]> By: MattC http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666048 MattC Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:40:59 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666048 @dug, that Han solo bit sounds similar to a "Jens" joke. When Jens was a young lad taking history, on his test he wrote-in "Attack" as the every answer for every question. The teacher called him up to explain his answers, and he simply said "the answer is ALWAYS to Attack". He got an A+ on his test. @dug, that Han solo bit sounds similar to a “Jens” joke.

When Jens was a young lad taking history, on his test he wrote-in “Attack” as the every answer for every question. The teacher called him up to explain his answers, and he simply said “the answer is ALWAYS to Attack”. He got an A+ on his test.

]]> By: MattC http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666047 MattC Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:31:18 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666047 "There are many bikes with flat tires on the side of the road, acting as object lessons as to what could happen if you go any faster than you are currently going." Fatty, I have to ask (and this applies to Davidh, DaveT, and anybody else who has raced Leadville): what is happening that these people are flatting? Are they running tire pressures WAY too low? Are there tons of gigantic goatheads or horrible sharp rocks or something like that? Quite honestly, I don't see any reason that going fast downhill is a reason to flat (ever been to a downhill race? Those guys and gals FLAT-OUT-FLY down some UBER-ROUGH stuff and rarely flat). I'm not a great descender, but since I put on a dropper post a few months back, look out...my bike really takes a beating on some downhills. And I don't even have tubeless anymore. Just curious why so many are flatting on a MTB race. “There are many bikes with flat tires on the side of the road, acting as object lessons as to what could happen if you go any faster than you are currently going.”

Fatty, I have to ask (and this applies to Davidh, DaveT, and anybody else who has raced Leadville): what is happening that these people are flatting? Are they running tire pressures WAY too low? Are there tons of gigantic goatheads or horrible sharp rocks or something like that?

Quite honestly, I don’t see any reason that going fast downhill is a reason to flat (ever been to a downhill race? Those guys and gals FLAT-OUT-FLY down some UBER-ROUGH stuff and rarely flat). I’m not a great descender, but since I put on a dropper post a few months back, look out…my bike really takes a beating on some downhills. And I don’t even have tubeless anymore. Just curious why so many are flatting on a MTB race.

]]> By: dug http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666046 dug Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:53:37 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666046 "Maybe Han Solo was right; sometimes it’s better to not know the odds." If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times--Han Solo is ALWAYS right. “Maybe Han Solo was right; sometimes it’s better to not know the odds.”

If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times–Han Solo is ALWAYS right.

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/comment-page-1/#comment-666045 Jeff Dieffenbach Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:43:33 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2015/08/19/2015-leadville-100-race-report-part-3-return-of-the-son-of-happy-warrior/#comment-666045 @rb, I'm all for uniting ... but at a respectable distance for safety's sake, please! [grin] @rb, I’m all for uniting … but at a respectable distance for safety’s sake, please! [grin]

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