Comments on: 2016 Six Hours in Frog Hollow, Part 4: Rubber Band http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/ It's like reality TV. Except it's real. And there's no TV. Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:21:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Bike Boy http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668751 Bike Boy Tue, 03 May 2016 13:41:53 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668751 I have never done road racing but prefer CX orver MTB. I have never done road racing but prefer CX orver MTB.

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668741 Jeff Dieffenbach Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:33:28 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668741 @MattC, it's typically $30-$35 per CX race, plus license. If you really just want to dip your toe in the water, try one race and get the one-day license. Also, look for groups that practice in your area. Good way to learn the lay of the land and get some intro tips. @MattC, it’s typically $30-$35 per CX race, plus license. If you really just want to dip your toe in the water, try one race and get the one-day license. Also, look for groups that practice in your area. Good way to learn the lay of the land and get some intro tips.

]]> By: MattC http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668739 MattC Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:37:39 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668739 Hmmm...interesting. I might just have to look into that...(of course, racing CX would cost $$ tho...which wouldn't be going into my new bike fund)..dilemma dilemma dilemma! ACK! The CHOICES I have to make! Hmmm…interesting. I might just have to look into that…(of course, racing CX would cost $$ tho…which wouldn’t be going into my new bike fund)..dilemma dilemma dilemma! ACK! The CHOICES I have to make!

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668738 Jeff Dieffenbach Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:02:11 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668738 @MattC, owen beat me to it--race CX on your MTB. Find the narrowest tires you can (I think I found 1.75" for mine). As he said, you'll have to ditch the bar-ends. Also, get rid of any water bottle cages on the off chance that you can shoulder it given the small size of the main triangle. @MattC, owen beat me to it–race CX on your MTB. Find the narrowest tires you can (I think I found 1.75″ for mine). As he said, you’ll have to ditch the bar-ends. Also, get rid of any water bottle cages on the off chance that you can shoulder it given the small size of the main triangle.

]]> By: owen http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668737 owen Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:11:27 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668737 race your mtb for cross that is what I do and I have a cross bike. Most local CX races will allow mtb's without bar ends to race. Its a great way to get into the sport and some courses are better suited for mtb's. Put some narrower tires on if you wish and go for it. race your mtb for cross that is what I do and I have a cross bike. Most local CX races will allow mtb’s without bar ends to race. Its a great way to get into the sport and some courses are better suited for mtb’s. Put some narrower tires on if you wish and go for it.

]]> By: MattC http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668736 MattC Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:47:50 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668736 @Jeff...agree w/ PNP...thanks for the talking up CX...I'd actually love to give that a try (racing for SLOW people I mean)! Of course, I do NOT have a CX bike...and after saving for 2 years to get my new MTB (just picked up the day after Xmas), it will be about that long before I save enough for another bike...(and sadly, I'm jonsing for an 'adventure' bike...you know, a 29+ hard-tail that I can go bikepacking on?) Man oh man...too much time, not enough money (and bikes). My equation (for how many bikes I need) is N+2, not 1. But I'm already afraid I'm currently at the D-1 number (2 mtb's, 2 road). But they're each different (like golf clubs...sure, you can play with just a 5 iron, but why would you?) My wife (a NON-cyclist) just doesn't understand! I think we need couples-cycling-counseling (is there such a thing?) @Jeff…agree w/ PNP…thanks for the talking up CX…I’d actually love to give that a try (racing for SLOW people I mean)! Of course, I do NOT have a CX bike…and after saving for 2 years to get my new MTB (just picked up the day after Xmas), it will be about that long before I save enough for another bike…(and sadly, I’m jonsing for an ‘adventure’ bike…you know, a 29+ hard-tail that I can go bikepacking on?) Man oh man…too much time, not enough money (and bikes). My equation (for how many bikes I need) is N+2, not 1. But I’m already afraid I’m currently at the D-1 number (2 mtb’s, 2 road). But they’re each different (like golf clubs…sure, you can play with just a 5 iron, but why would you?) My wife (a NON-cyclist) just doesn’t understand! I think we need couples-cycling-counseling (is there such a thing?)

]]> By: PNP http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668734 PNP Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:00:53 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668734 @Jeff Dieffenbach, thanks! I've been tempted to try CX for quite a while. I even have a good CX bike in my corral. I'm a pretty good climber, but I'm just not fast. There's an entire series of races here in Oregon every year. I have no excuses for not giving it a try! Thanks! @Jeff Dieffenbach, thanks! I’ve been tempted to try CX for quite a while. I even have a good CX bike in my corral. I’m a pretty good climber, but I’m just not fast. There’s an entire series of races here in Oregon every year. I have no excuses for not giving it a try! Thanks!

]]> By: owen http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668733 owen Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:30:48 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668733 I have a feeling the early mention of the SS gearing is going to come back into play in this story very soon. I have a feeling the early mention of the SS gearing is going to come back into play in this story very soon.

]]> By: Jeff Dieffenbach http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668732 Jeff Dieffenbach Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:09:39 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668732 @PNP, there ARE races for slow people. Specifically, CX. I know this first-hand. Here's what I've learned: 1. Road racing is NOT for slow people. There's too much benefit to riding in the pack, so if you get ejected out the back, you're just doing a hard solo ride with no hope of competing. 2. Mountain bike racing is better, as drafting takes on much less of a role, but doing technical things at high speed is a recipe for not just going slower, but coming to a complete halt. And not in the good way. 3. CX is best. Like MTB, no real draft benefit. Unlike MTB, though, the laps are much shorter (on the order of a mile and a half) and there are spectators everywhere. Unless you're DFL and OTB, you're always within sight of at least a few racers ahead and behind. The courses are moderately technical, but you tend not to be hitting those elements at speed, and you can always dismount and run them (the only acceptable violation of Rule 42). Forty minutes or so of working as hard as you can, not as hard as someone else can. Give CX a try! @PNP, there ARE races for slow people. Specifically, CX. I know this first-hand.

Here’s what I’ve learned:

1. Road racing is NOT for slow people. There’s too much benefit to riding in the pack, so if you get ejected out the back, you’re just doing a hard solo ride with no hope of competing.

2. Mountain bike racing is better, as drafting takes on much less of a role, but doing technical things at high speed is a recipe for not just going slower, but coming to a complete halt. And not in the good way.

3. CX is best. Like MTB, no real draft benefit. Unlike MTB, though, the laps are much shorter (on the order of a mile and a half) and there are spectators everywhere. Unless you’re DFL and OTB, you’re always within sight of at least a few racers ahead and behind. The courses are moderately technical, but you tend not to be hitting those elements at speed, and you can always dismount and run them (the only acceptable violation of Rule 42). Forty minutes or so of working as hard as you can, not as hard as someone else can.

Give CX a try!

]]> By: bart http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/comment-page-1/#comment-668731 bart Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:27:26 +0000 http://www.fatcyclist.com/2016/04/28/2016-six-hours-in-frog-hollow-part-4-rubber-band/#comment-668731 LOVE these race reports ! LOVE these race reports !

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