Stuff That Came In the Mail: Clean Bottle

12.2.2010 | 11:37 am

If I were a bike bottle manufacturer with an innovative new product, and I were looking for some cheap bike-related publicity, you know what I would do? I would check out

And then I would immediately cross it off my list of blogs to send a bottle to.

Why? Because, it turns out, I’m a little bit cranky about bottles. A little bit skeptical. A little bit jaded.

I am, it turns out, the guy who wrote The Water Bottle Manifesto five years ago, back when this blog was young. And I’m the guy who — during Random Reviewer’s brief, glorious existence — wrote a kinda scathing review of the Gel-Bot bottle (which I stand behind, thanks).

So, if you knew all those things and you were the inventor of the Clean Bottle — a bike bottle with a screw-bottom as well as top — would you send me a bottle?

‘Cuz I wouldn’t.

But the folks at Clean Bottle — foolishly, perhaps — sent me one anyway. And so I’m going to write about it. Whether they want me to or not.

Why The Clean Bottle ExistsIMG_1674.jpg

Why would you have a bottle with a screw-bottom, as well as a screw-top? Well, for one simple reason: to make it easier to clean.

If you can unscrew the bottom of the bottle, both the bottom of the bottle and the body of the bottle near the bottom should be easier to clean.

Dry Facts About the Clean Bottle

Before I get into my subjective thoughts about this bottle, let’s go through a few things that aren’t subjective:

  • How much it holds: 22oz. The bottle is the same height as 24oz bottles, but holds a smidgen less, probably because of its unique bottom. I love that I just got to use “unique bottom” in a sentence, by the way.
  • BPA-free: Yes. Which is good, I think.
  • Cost: $9.95 direct from the maker, but if you buy 3, you get a fourth free. If you spend at least $45, you get free shipping.
  • No threading compatability: None of the tops from any of your other bottles will work with this bottle. For what it’s worth, none of the tops of any of your bottles (including the top from the Clean Bottle) will work with the bottom of this bottle, either. Which means you cannot have a two-headed bottle. Which means you cannot make a bottle built for two. Alas.
  • Dishwasher safe: Yep. ‘Cuz If it weren’t, it would have to be renamed the “Extraordinarily Inconvenient to Clean Bottle.” (Once I get into the subjective part of this review, I’ll have more to say on this, by the way.)
  • Number of times the Clean Bottle “Bottle Boy” was shown on-camera in the 2010 TdF: 4,328. And referred to by Phil Liggett each and every time. I’m pretty sure Phil and Clean Bottle are BFF.

Things I Like About the Clean Bottle

The Clean Bottle website claims they went through “54 prototypes, 2 patent applications and 3 years” to develop the bottle. That’s a lot of development and research for a bottle.

And there are a lot of things to like about it.

First of all, the bottle fits snugly in every bottle cage I tested it in, both road and mountain. You shouldn’t run into “ejected bottle syndrome” too often.

Next, the valve works well. Which is to say, water comes through it easily, and it doesn’t dribble (although I’ve haven’t had the bottle long enough to tell whether a dribble will develop). It’s easy to pull open with your teeth, and pop back closed in whichever way you choose (personally, I like to close the valve by ramming it against my forehead).

The plastic body is a good thickness; it’s easy enough to squeeze that you can get plenty of drink in a single tug, but not so flimsy that you wind up squeezing out half your drink as you try to pull the bottle out of the cage.

And finally, there’s some nice attention to detail. Check out the photo below (click here for a larger version):


You can see that both the top (on the left) and the bottom (on the right) caps have a gasket, making it so that the bottle screws on very securely, and no fluid leaks out either end.

Now I’m Going to Stop Being Nice

With all those (nice) things said, I have no use for this bottle. First of all, I think it’s got an irony problem. Which is to say, I think this bottle is going to be a lot harder to keep clean than any other bottle.

Take a look at the screw-on bottle top and bottom in the photo above. Now imagine it’s really dirty, thanks to your negligence (shame on you). You think that gap between the inner ring and outer ring in both the top and bottom cap is going to be easy to clean out? (Answer: no).

How about the crud and mold that have made their home under the gasket? (Answer: no)

How about, finally, the very fact that you have double the number of hard parts of the bottle to clean?

You see, that’s the heart of the matter. Honestly, it’s very easy to clean all the way to the bottom of a normal bottle. You just throw it in the dishwasher and let it run. But if you forget the bottle and it gets gross, it’s not the bottle body that becomes problematic, it’s the bottle cap. All the gunk that collects in the cracks and crevices.

And since this bottle has more cracks and crevices (and a gasket) per cap than most bottles, and then has twice as many caps as regular bottles, this bottle may in fact be the second most-difficult bottle to keep clean, ever.

And I have to ask: if you have gross bottle bottoms, do you also have gross drinking glass bottoms? Because cleaning the bottom of a drinking glass requires pretty much the same effort and tools as cleaning the bottom of a water bottle.

Your Loss

My second grievance with the Clean Bottle is the same problem I have with socks: when you lose a part of the set, the whole thing becomes useless.

Well, actually, that’s not so much of a problem with socks if you’re willing to wear mismatched socks. Which I am. In fact, the likelihood of me wearing matched socks is exactly the same of me pulling two matching socks at random out of a drawer.

I digress.

By making the parts of its bottle fully exclusive (the body doesn’t work with any other caps, the caps don’t work with any other bodies), Clean Bottle is expecting you to keep all three parts of your special bottle together.

And if you lose any of the three parts, the whole thing is useless. Sure, the Clean Bottle website says if you lose a part it’ll “get your Clean Bottle working again” (I don’t know if that’s for free or fee), but I know myself well enough to know that I’m more likely to just chuck the whole thing.

So my second problem with this bottle: more parts to assemble and lose = greater likelihood I’ll lose something, and a lower likelihood I’ll spend the time necessary to collect and assemble the parts.

Summing Up

Clean Bottle seems to be well-made and works well as a bottle. But by introducing more parts and adding complexity to those parts, Clean Bottle may actually compound the problem it was designed to solve.

Plus, I’m still a little miffed about not being able to put a drinking cap at each end of the bottle.


  1. Comment by Marc P Jones | 12.2.2010 | 11:49 am

    Camelback. Prefer podium chill. Nuff said.

  2. Comment by Aaron | 12.2.2010 | 11:54 am

    I thought the exact same thing, when I first saw this bottle. They have made a solution, to a problem that doesn’t exist. Funny how their solution, actually CAUSES the problem.

  3. Comment by Bacmapei | 12.2.2010 | 12:04 pm

    +1 for Camelbak
    Podium Chill is great, but Podium Ice is amazing.

  4. Comment by Lora | 12.2.2010 | 12:06 pm

    When I first started reading this I immediately thought of the baby bottles my son used. The bottom screwed off to make it “easier” to clean. But as you have suggested, it really wasn’t easier. In fact, it was ridiculously hard to keep the grooves clean. I spent more time cleaning those bottles than the kid did eating out of them.

  5. Comment by AC | 12.2.2010 | 12:09 pm

    duh, buy identical socks every time and they always match, problem solved. Bonus efficiency is gained by wearing cycling socks at all times.

    Good review, I was curious about these bottles. I need to purge the bottle collection and pick up some more camelbak bottles.

  6. Comment by Greg | 12.2.2010 | 12:09 pm

    Thank you for this review, fatty! I’d been hearing all the hype about these “clean bottles,” but thought to myself that they just looked too complicated. Plus, the bottoms of my bottles aren’t dirty anyway. So thanks for an insightful, honest, and funny review!

  7. Comment by Tiffany R | 12.2.2010 | 12:13 pm

    Great review Fatty, but what I really want to know is what happened to to the’stash pictures for Movember?

  8. Comment by wishiwasmerckx | 12.2.2010 | 12:15 pm

    Keeping regular bottles clean is a snap. First, have bottles devoted exclusively to h2o, and bottles devoted exclusively to sports drink, and do not mix the two. Second, when the bottle shows any sign of smelling funny, fill it with a tablespoon or so of baking soda and the hottest water you can get from your tap. Shake well, then let it sit overnight. Re-wash, and you should be good to go. If it still smells funny, toss it. Bottles are relatively inexpensive, after all. I have a whole pile of them that I have accumulated over the years as promotional giveaways of one sort or another.

  9. Comment by GenghisKhan | 12.2.2010 | 12:17 pm

    Nice review. Is it compatible with the Arantix IsoTruss frame?

  10. Comment by dug | 12.2.2010 | 12:20 pm

    a good rule of thumb: never pay for bottles.

  11. Comment by Rick (my real name) | 12.2.2010 | 12:22 pm

    I had someone who used to work for me that was as compulsive about his socks as you are laissez-faire. All he wore were calf-high white athletic-type socks, but he labeled the pairs (“A”, “B”, etc.) so he would always wear the same two together. I suppose that this way he could assure himself that they would wear evenly. I was too afraid to actually ask. I don’t think he went so far as to label them left and right, but maybe he had a secret code for that as well.

  12. Comment by resopmok | 12.2.2010 | 12:23 pm

    I don’t have a dishwasher, and I have never been able to clean the mold out of the bottom of a standard bottle. usually they are made into mudflaps instead. still, $10 is too much to pay for a bottle whether it can be fully cleaned or not.

  13. Comment by peter | 12.2.2010 | 12:24 pm

    I concur. They sent me a pair of these bottles (I own a bike shop) and I had them on the counter by the register during the TdF.
    Many people picked them up, just as many talked about seeing the BottleBoy.
    No one felt the “Problem” solved was worth the investment. I still have the 2 bottles they sent me, although not on the counter.

  14. Comment by wishiwasmerckx | 12.2.2010 | 12:37 pm

    Oh, and one more thing I forgot. Empty and rinse your bottles as soon as you arrive back home…as a standard part of your post-ride ritual. If you leave them overnight (or for days at a time), you are going to go through a lot of bottles.

  15. Comment by KanyonKris | 12.2.2010 | 12:40 pm

    The better functioning CamelBak bottle easily trumps claims of easier cleaning.

    dug, I hear you and that was my mantra before CamelBak bottles.

  16. Comment by Herb | 12.2.2010 | 12:43 pm

    The first thing I look at after deciding on a bottle to buy is that gasket on the lid. A few years back we had bottles that we just couldn’t get an odor out of. We had no prior experience with this type of bottle but as soon as my wife removed the gasket we discovered all the mold. We removed every gasket and found the same thing on all of them. In all we tossed 7 bottles because of that problem since the gasket kept the seal. Live and learn I guess. Thanks for the review.

  17. Comment by Mikeonhisbike | 12.2.2010 | 12:44 pm

    -1 for Camelbak. I know I’m going against the grain here but I hate the Camelbak bottles. I’ve got piles of bottles from promo giveaways and my favorites are just the plain and simple bottles with no frills. I’m with Dug. Never pay for a water bottle.

    Thanks for an honest review.

  18. Comment by Squirrelhead | 12.2.2010 | 12:49 pm

    I enjoyed the informative write-up but nothing about this products seems easy at all. I will stick with my Camelback Podiums.

    Thanks for the cleaning tips on stinky bottles. I will try that out.

  19. Comment by Dr. Lammler | 12.2.2010 | 1:02 pm

    You close the valve by smashing it into your forehead?

    Doesn’t that cause premature hair loss?

  20. Comment by KeepYerBag | 12.2.2010 | 1:20 pm

    Like Lora, I’m reminded of one of my kid’s sippy cups that had ten parts, a five page assembly pamphlet and was a bear to clean. Those gummy silicone gaskets are mildew magnets.

    More proof to the fact that sometimes low-tech is the best tech.

  21. Comment by Tom E | 12.2.2010 | 1:29 pm

    Glad to hear just because they sent you them for “free” you are still able to give an honest review Fatty! Was talking to a local bike shop here in Denver and they had the same things to say about these bottles. I’ll stick with the Podium bottles

  22. Comment by Rocky | 12.2.2010 | 1:37 pm

    I’m still fat. And hungry. And now I am cranky.

  23. Comment by T Foster | 12.2.2010 | 1:48 pm

    I must have one hell of a dishwasher because I have never seen residue or spots at the bottom of my bottles after a wash. The only time I lose a bottle is when the wife or kids put the bottles on the bottom rack and they melt from the dryer.

    Give props to the creator for some excellent TdF exposure.

    I prefer the Camelbak Podium.

  24. Comment by Jeff | 12.2.2010 | 2:06 pm

    I agree, any mold I’ve ever had in a bottle was in (or just below) the threading for the lid. I was always confused by their ads and thought perhaps I just have some kind of water bottle washing secret that kept the bottom clean that others had yet to discover.

    Nope, just turns out that the bottle is pointless.

  25. Comment by Susan Helene Gottfried | 12.2.2010 | 2:17 pm

    Okay, I totally agree about the inability to build a bottle built for two.

    BUT. I used bottles for The Boy Band that had this same concept — screw on top AND bottom. I found it easy enough to unscrew the tops and bottoms and pop ‘em in the dishwasher all at once. (Maybe, Fatty, that’s the problem. You load your dishwasher in stages.) They came out nice and clean. It wasn’t hard to keep things together.

    BUT. That was for a formula-filled baby bottle. Formula was nasty stuff. Know what I put in a water bottle? Yeah. Water. Not as nasty.

    I suppose if I drank something else while I ride, it’d be different. But I don’t, so… no sale over here, either.

  26. Comment by Brett W | 12.2.2010 | 2:38 pm

    The poor investors that backed this are going to lose their money. All the free advertising in the world isn’t going to make a bad idea successful. Another vote for Camelbak Podium bottle, they are exceptional.

  27. Comment by centurion | 12.2.2010 | 2:46 pm

    If you get gunk in the bottom of a bottle, a dash of bleach and a brush should get it out. If it doesn’t, time to re-task the bottle. People pay for water bottles? Really??

  28. Comment by Anne | 12.2.2010 | 3:01 pm

    Nice review of the bottle. I was thinking the same. Also is it leakprof?

  29. Comment by Eric L | 12.2.2010 | 3:49 pm

    I’ve been using CamelBak Podiums because Fatty said so. Because I use Accelerade, they get REALLY funky inside, so I had to get a bottle brush to get the protein residue out. I started getting mold under the rubber mouthpiece and actually threw a couple of lids out before one of the Camelbak people at an event showed me that they do come off so you can clean that bit.

    I tried going back to my old Specialized bottles but am now totally spoiled by the Podiums.

    I wish I could get them for free. …no wait, Fatty sent me two Garmin Podium bottles earlier this year.

    But can we really let this rest with Fatty? Fatty, why don’t you send them to Dr. Lammler for his opinion?

  30. Comment by BigShorty | 12.2.2010 | 3:52 pm

    Camelback podium (asking Santa for some Podium Ice for Christmas). Camelback got me hooked on the better bottle……….

  31. Comment by genaro | 12.2.2010 | 5:08 pm

    Nice review. You really did not hold back on that one. Who can blame you? I was thinking almost the same thing as i read your post. CamelBak Podium works fine for me. I love how at the end of the day I can just throw both the cap and bottle in the dishwasher and have it be ready for the next day’s ride.

  32. Comment by Aron | 12.2.2010 | 6:03 pm

    a long handled bottle brush is what I use to keep the inside of the bottle clean. my problem is the caps. I get horrendous scum in the cap. I scrub out what I can with a sponge, and the rest, anti bacterial denture cleaner tablets. at least the scum is sterile after that. if someone can come up with a bottle design that will not collect scum in the cap, that’s where the money is.

  33. Comment by Han Aiwen | 12.2.2010 | 7:10 pm

    This is a solution in search of a problem.

  34. Comment by WheelDancer | 12.2.2010 | 7:13 pm

    Classic example of over-engineering which is what I thought about Camelback Podium until I tried them. Now that’s all I pay for but I do still use free ones because, well, they’re free!

  35. Comment by JM | 12.2.2010 | 7:22 pm

    Another vote for Camelbak’s podium bottles. By far the best.

  36. Comment by Tom | 12.2.2010 | 7:26 pm

    I have only ever paid for 2 bottles, all others were freebies so when they show signs of age I find another purpose for them! Lots of good tips to help bottles last longer here! Fatty has good friends and readers!

  37. Comment by Kent | 12.2.2010 | 7:37 pm

    Nice review, sorry Clean Bottle, I am male. I don’t have the time.
    I typically check the condition of my bottles as I am about to walk out the door for a ride. I then quickly had hot tap water and shake to remove the black stuff, fill with water or other hydration, and leave.
    Maybe I will run them in the dishwasher tonight, or maybe not.

  38. Comment by Banana | 12.2.2010 | 7:47 pm

    Here is the easiest way to clean a bottle and you only need two things:

    1. baby bottle brush
    2. Denture tablets
    3. Water

    So I guess you need three thins!

    Rinse and wash your bottle with warm water and baby bottle brush with little soap. Then refill with water. Drop the denture tablet in and soak for 5 minutes or so and then re-wash using water/soap/bottle brush. Not only does the denture tablet work well, it takes out the ever lasting taste of the power drink you previously had it in. Such as if you went from orange drink to red drink!

    It works every time! No need for “clean bottle!”

  39. Comment by Nurse Betsy | 12.2.2010 | 8:30 pm

    “Number of times the Clean Bottle “Bottle Boy” was shown on-camera in the 2010 TdF: 4,328″…….heehee!
    Who counted? That’s what I want to know.

  40. Comment by doo6300 | 12.2.2010 | 9:22 pm

    Get a flat bottom bottle brush and use it on the cap too. Squirt hot soapy water though the mouthpiece (add a drop of bleach if funky). Rinse well and you are done! 15 seconds

  41. Comment by Sean | 12.2.2010 | 9:29 pm

    I change my water bottles only at the end of the season.
    Same two bottles…
    …all year…
    …never washed…
    let the haters hate and the doctors caution.

  42. Comment by Marci | 12.2.2010 | 9:44 pm

    Funny. My day job is in the restaurant supply biz and we sell those bottles like they use at Subway to dispense your mustard. The concepts are strikingly similar. Maybe I’ll start riding with these. No gaskets… no pesky crevices… hmmmmm….


  43. Comment by Clydesteve | 12.2.2010 | 10:34 pm

    what Rocky said. until today. the holiday onslaught of unasked for treats at work has begun.

    I have already lost 6 lbs, but now my diet is toast.

    with or without funky bottles.

  44. Comment by Penina | 12.3.2010 | 4:39 am

    Banana, exactly. I’ve tried the Sigg bottle washing tablets with great effect, but then I realized they seemed quite similar to the denture tabs my twins use to clean their retainers…much cheaper, especially when you buy generic club packs. And minty fresh!

  45. Comment by Cardiac Kid | 12.3.2010 | 6:59 am

    I think you’ve all missed the one feature that this bottle offers that none of the other do…..Birdfeeder.

    take the ends off. Tie the ends of piece of string around the threads on each end. Add some peanut butter and birdseed to the inside center of the bottle and hang the feeder from the center of the string.


  46. Comment by PHil | 12.3.2010 | 7:05 am

    All I want is a bottle that actually is dishwasher safe, every time I run a new bottle through the dishwasher it warps a little so the top is harder to get on (I’m admittedly using cheap bottles).

  47. Comment by Richard | 12.3.2010 | 8:20 am

    What Centurion said – bleach!

    Just make sure you rinse well.

  48. Comment by Paul | 12.3.2010 | 8:24 am

    I love this bottle!!

    Anytime my wife and asks if I have a “clean bottle”, I can honestly say YES.

  49. Comment by MattC | 12.3.2010 | 9:01 am

    I had been using Nalgene (soft) bottles for years until I tried (upon Fatty’s recommendation) the podium bottles. The Nalgene’s were great becasue I use Cytomax and it can really leave funk and odor…and the Nalgene’s were (mostly) impervious to this. HOWEVER, since trying the podium bottles I am sold. I LOVE the tops. I love that the tops are standard threading and I can put them on most any bottle. The Fatty podium bottles I have from last year are still running strong, and seem to be on par w/ the Nalgene’s for anti-odor/funk. If for no other reason, I would’t but a ‘Clean bottle’ cuz of the top. If I could put a podium top on it I might consider giving it a shot. Sorry Clean bottle…make your threads compatible w/ the industry standard. Great review Fatty!

    And hey…The LIVESTRONG registration is now open for 2011…and they moved San Jose to Davis?? Where in the hay is that?? I really liked San Jose. Rats.

  50. Comment by MattC | 12.3.2010 | 9:04 am

    That was supposed to be “I wouldn’t BUY a ‘Clean Bottle’ cuz of the top”. Fatty…we need edit capability for our fat fingers…

  51. Comment by Marshall Miller | 12.3.2010 | 10:04 am

    Camelbak Podium with CarboRocket. The Podium bottles are wonderful, and CarboRocket makes them much easier to clean than other sports drinks I’ve tried. (It’s also just a better sport drink, period.) I rinse out the bottles at the end of a ride, just like wishiwasmerckx recommended, and I’ve never had a problem.

  52. Comment by Mark | 12.3.2010 | 10:25 am

    Lots of conversation for a simple thing, it seems to me. My LBS gives bottles away, I rinse them every ride, maybe a few swipes with a brush, and never really gave it this much thought. Probably won’t again. Good post, as usual, however!

  53. Comment by Jason | 12.3.2010 | 11:50 am

    +1 for Camelbak Podium however the silicone nipple can get dirty. But I still love this bottle.

  54. Comment by Paul Guyot | 12.3.2010 | 12:06 pm

    I have two of these Clean Bottles and use them exclusively for sports drink. I never have to deal with baking soda or brushes or tablets or any of the other “simple” things needed to clean them.

    And having the tops (and bottoms) that only fit themselves actually makes it easier for a dope like me to know which bottles are for my drink and which are for my water.

    I think I have 13 bottles in my collection. Counting the $20 I paid for the Cleans (which IS too much), I have spent a total of $22 on thirteen bottles.

  55. Comment by evil3 | 12.3.2010 | 12:10 pm

    You didn’t say this, but I could see you going to fill up the bottle only to find out that it isn’t holding any water since you forgot to but the bottom back on. And in forgetting to put it back on, like you said it is now lost and is a useless bottle.

  56. Comment by AngieG | 12.3.2010 | 1:28 pm

    Why clean them all the way. That little bit of mold acts just like a vaccination and keeps your immune system healthy. :-)

  57. Comment by mschiefferly | 12.3.2010 | 2:47 pm

    Wait what is all this talk about washing your bottles? Guess I better start doing that.

  58. Comment by Chris W | 12.3.2010 | 5:25 pm

    Check this out:

    Once & done but soooo fashionable

  59. Comment by PedalGeek | 12.3.2010 | 10:30 pm

    I did not see the original Gel-Bot bottle but as I’m reading this I knew immediately that you felt my pain. I accidentally got sucked into the Gel-bot when the LBS had them in a bin for a dollar or two. I have never even tried to use it for gels and it is still be far the worst bottle I have ever owned. I would rather have a bottle that the lid popped off with every use and showered me with the somewhat expensive electrolyte replacement drink leaving me in a sticky mess for the remainder of my ride than to use the Gel-bot. Against my love of the environment I have even tried to jettison the Gel-bot like a TdF bitton during a ride and the wildlife didn’t even want it. It was on my doorstep the next morning beside some squirrel poo spelling ‘no thanks’. Thanks for the warning about the Clean Bottle…I’ll pass the discount bin this time.

  60. Comment by roan | 12.3.2010 | 10:58 pm

    “close the valve by ramming it against my forehead”, me too. Works everytime and keeps me focused on long road rides.
    I love argyle socks too, don’t think they can be mismatched ever…argh-gile matey.
    Bottles…I prefer metal, clean with bottle brush if needed and boiling water, rinse with fresh fill of grog, drink, forehead smash, repeat fill as needed.

  61. Comment by Kyle (aka slowcyclist) | 12.4.2010 | 12:09 am

    I get my bottles free from the my local bike shop. They put their logo on it, which I’m ok with because it is a great place and they paid for the bottle. I just grab a new one when I need it and clean them in the dishwasher.

    They could use a new website though. Perhaps if they charged for bottles….

  62. Comment by Born 4 Lycra | 12.4.2010 | 12:25 am

    I may have missed the point but if the this is the second most difficult bottle to keep clean which is the first?

  63. Comment by petehall | 12.4.2010 | 6:29 pm

    I bought 6 of them for myself and friends who were going on a week long ride. And we all liked it.

    But what I really want is a genius to invent a bottle that doesn’t taste like plastic after stewing in the hot sun and still mangages to work for cyclists.

  64. Comment by Lucky Cyclist | 12.4.2010 | 8:23 pm

    I got one of Specialized’s new Purist bottles, and at first glance I thought it was just a copy of the Camelbak bottles. It kind of is, save one important improvement. You can open it with your teeth like a regular bottle. It took a few minutes to realize this. I never realized the weak point in Camelbak’s bottles until then. They seem as leak proof as the Podium’s and the lids fit any Specialized bottle, (read: every free bottle you’ve ever received.)

  65. Comment by Beast Mom | 12.5.2010 | 12:21 am

    Looks like you and some company need to build a better mousetrap. Demand is high across all sports, not just cycling, standards aren’t being met…it’s the perfect business opportunity. Get Twin Six on it. You’ll all be gazillionaires if you can defeat your own manifesto.


    Hope you and the family had a good Thanksgiving. I’m catching up on your blog.


  66. Comment by blammo | 12.5.2010 | 2:47 pm

    The review reminded me of another ridiculous product that has been around for some time – pants that have legs that zip off to transform into shorts! Just because we CAN make it, doesn’t mean we SHOULD make it.

  67. Comment by Mike Roadie | 12.6.2010 | 6:02 am

    I have to agree with the other commenters……since the invention of the Camelbak Podium Bottle, nothing else is necessary.

    BTW, I lost one measly pound this past week….hardly worth all the effort!

  68. Comment by johnny | 12.6.2010 | 9:29 am

    I am in the don,t pay for bottles camp. I usually average 1 “found” bottle a month. Who drops $5-$15, most likely hears it go and doesn’t stop to pick it up…on a training or rec ride? Oh well. My fave is the podium…chill or otherwise. Specialized runs a close second (almost a tie due to the sheer volume in my bottle cabinet).

    weigh in:
    I’m at 193.8 lbs… down 3.2 from last week. I would probably be lighter but I’m pegging Sunday as my off diet day and it was a doozie! Lasagna, bread & holiday goodies!

  69. Comment by Jennie | 12.6.2010 | 9:44 am

    it’s the day for the weigh-in: should I drop it here or somewhere else? 155 lbs …I think all attributable to weighing in the morning rather than the evening but it -looks- as if I’m down 3 lbs.

  70. Comment by Marc P Jones | 12.6.2010 | 10:48 am

    Weigh in day, 255.0 pounds this am, even after sitting in cont. ed. all weekend. down 3.3

  71. Comment by Marc P Jones | 12.6.2010 | 10:48 am

    edit that. 265.0 wishful thinking on my part. still down 3.3

  72. Comment by joe P | 12.6.2010 | 11:13 am

    Weigh in day. Was 171.0 Now 165.7.

  73. Comment by Turn The Damn Cranks | 12.6.2010 | 11:55 am

    Only down 1.6 — 199.4. But considering all of the junk I’ve been eating for Hannukah, that’s a small miracle of its own!

  74. Comment by Tim | 12.6.2010 | 12:18 pm

    Weigh-in Day

  75. Comment by chickenbocks | 12.6.2010 | 12:42 pm

    Down 2.2 lbs

  76. Comment by Dave | 12.6.2010 | 12:42 pm

    Weigh-In Day
    223.5 down 4 pounds!

  77. Comment by heather | 12.6.2010 | 12:45 pm

    Was 151.5, down to 148.8 . . .
    Down 2.7 lbs.

  78. Comment by Nooch | 12.6.2010 | 12:55 pm

    Weigh-In Day: 213.6

    Total Change: -4.6 lbs.

    (here’s hoping it’s not up tomorrow…)

  79. Comment by Northern Neighbor | 12.6.2010 | 6:36 pm

    Nov. 30 201
    Dec. 6 199
    Net: -2.0

  80. Comment by Bill | 12.10.2010 | 4:54 pm

    Start weight 200
    1st weigh in 12/6 197 lbs
    net -3

  81. Comment by Garmin 500 | 12.15.2010 | 8:19 am

    I still don’t get it why is that bottle easier to clean lol… anyhow, funny post :)

  82. Comment by Sarah | 03.30.2011 | 1:03 pm

    You are supposed to put it in the dishwasher. Problem solved.


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